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AMERICAN MUSIC: THE VIOLENT FEMMES MAILING LIST currently run by Pat. Wary ************************************************************************** TOUR DATES: (NEW DATES MARKED WITH A **) Dec. 31-Field Museum, Chicago, IL (www.q101.com) Jan. 22-Stanford University, Stanford, CA (O) Jan. 23-Miller Stage, San Diego, CA (P,O) Jan. 24-The Coach House, San Juan Capistrano, CA (T,P,O) Jan. 26-The Joint, Las Vegas, NV (O) Jan. 28-The Canyons Arena, Park City, UT (O) Jan. 29-Union Block, Boise, ID (O) Jan. 31-Whitman College, Walla Walla, WA (O)** Feb. 1-Paramount Theatre, Seattle, WA (T,P,O) Feb. 2-LaLuna, Portland, OR (T,P,O) Feb. 4-The Vogue, Vancouver, BC, CA (O) Feb. 5-SAME AS ABOVE, OPTIONAL DATE (O) Feb. 7-Egan Civic & Convention Center,Anchorage,Alaska (O,P) Feb. 8-same as above, is the abbrev for Alaska AK? (O,P) Mar. 1-Wayne State College, Wayne, NE (O) NOTA BENE: 'O' stands for the Official homepage 'P' stands for Pollstar 'T' stands for Ticketmaster 'I' stands for Insider Info All other references are subscribers To book a show, contact Monterrey Peninsula Artists. Serious inquiries only. ************************************************************************* The Quote Of The Day: I'll take a toast to life But I drink the most When my devil start to think -From Don't Start Me On The Liquor PLEASE send your VF quotes to ************************************************************************* WHO/WHERE Going to a VF concert? Want to know if anyone else on the list also going? Check here first! Seattle, WA ------------ ************************************************************************* ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO IMPROVE THIS LETTER SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO ANY AND ALL CORRESPONDENCE CONCERNING THIS LETTER SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO ************************************************************************* WEB PAGES: Official: http://www.vfemmes.com Unofficial: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mmerry2/femmes.html Guitar: http://home.ptd.net/~jiffypop/violent_femmes/ TAB DIGEST: The tab digest is give and take; remember to share what you have. Une banane dans l'oreille: Send in your top five faves each week to: They will periodically be compiled and posted. HERE I AM: write to me, , to add your name to this list. Once it's up and running, you can then write in to find out who lives near you, or who lives in a town you'll be visiting. ************************************************************************* In Today's Issue: New Year's Greetings New Year's Greetings Info Needed: San Diego Show RE: Mangling the Name RE: South Park RE: South Park RE: American Music Loudon Wainwright III (Was RE: I Held Her In My Arms) Promise in Bad Movie Chicago Hope Birth Announcement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ New Year's Greetings ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To all of you who celebrate tonight as New Year's Eve, have a happy and safe night of debauchery. This will be sent out in the evening, and if any of you are going to tonight's show in Chicago, you probably won't be reading this till tomorrow. Please let us all know how the show went. I can't think of a single thing I'd rather do on New Year's than see the VF. Damn. Too far away..hubby works tomorrow. -Pat. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ New Year's Greetings ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Happy New Year Everyone! :-) Check out my photos on the New Years Rose Parade LIVE webcast. I've been covering Rose Parade/game events since last Saturday and my photos will be seen on the live webcast page soon. The address is attached - http://www.wavepress.com/roseparade/ Have Fun! -Cheryl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Info Needed: San Diego Show ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Great Gods, I have a chance at redemption! If anyone has ANY info on the January 23rd show in San Diego, PLEEEEZ post it or email it to me. Info I'd appreciate includes Is the show 21 and up, Where the hell is it, and How much are tickets? I love you all, so please help me to make up for the missed concert at Canes! I'll see the San Diegans at the concert, god willing, maybe even with my boyfriend! Claire ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Mangling the Name ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i had forgotten about this - which happens pretty often - until last night, when it happened once again. my license plate is "V FEMS". an acquaintance of mine noticed the tag for the first time, and, assuming that the V was a roman numeral 5, asked "what does 'five femmes' mean?" and since i'm a vegetarian, people also frequently think that the V stands for "vegetarian," and that my vanity tag is some sort of statement on vegetarian feminism (or feminist vegetarianism). highly amusing. bec ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: South Park ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The lyrics that Kyle was singing in the Christmas special (second verse same as the first) are not just from the Violent Femmes. When I used to go to summer camp, we'd sing the same song over and over, just adding the line "Second verse, same as the first. A little bit louder and a little bit worse!". We'd keep getting louder and louder... FLASHBACKS!!! AHHHH!!! -Emily - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: South Park ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ my parents run an arts camp during the summer, and when i was really little they used to do "performing arts week" which was an overnight camp, and everyone sang the usual camp songs. there was one called "little red wagon" and after every verse you would say "second (or third, etc.) verse, same as the first. a little bit louder and a little bit worse." and then you would preceed to sing it louder and ummm...well... worse. ok...just thought i would add another place that line may have come from. Juliana "you can't ride in my little red wagon. front seat's broken and the axel's draggin'. chug, baby. chug, baby. chug, chug, chug. Second verse. same as the first. a little bit louder, and a little bit worse....." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: American Music ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ><I can hear music, sweet sweet music.>> > >Just wondering, I have never heard them sing that background vocal >live. Has anyone? > hey, somebody besides me noticed this!! :-) actually, they *used* to sing the "i can hear music, sweet sweet music" part live -- when victor was the drummer. i was *pretty* sure i remembered them singing that counterpoint live, but had no proof, until i was re-organising my videos, and came across an old (and really, really poor quality) tape i made of their appearance on the dennis miller show in (i think) early 1992; on it you can clearly hear, and see, that victor sings the "i can hear music" part. they haven't done it live since guy joined, and that really puzzles me -- he sings on other songs, so why not that one? bec -Pat. Says: If Guy won't do it, maybe they should see if someone else will. Willie, perhaps. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Loudon Wainwright III (Was RE: I Held Her In My Arms) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > I want to think it was Louden Wainright III, Does anybody know if this guy has actually opened for the Femmes? Louden rocks! When I first heard him I even thought he sounded a bit like a young Gordon. (Please don't attack me for that. Really. Please.) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Promise in Bad Movie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I was watching some stupid movie (i think it was called sunset heat, Dennis Hopper was in it) But at one point it showed a guy alone in his house playing guitar and singing. To my amazement he was singing "Promise"!! Where the hell did that come from. Just thought I'd share that. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chicago Hope ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I can't believe I'd forgotten about this for so long, but these are the shoddy details. This summer I was watching Chicago Hope one evening. Two brothers or friends took a convenience store by force with many hostages inside. One of the brothers was the sane one fighting for the purpose of their revolution, the other was the anti-society, shoot-'em-up brother. The wacko brother turned on the radio and began singing along very dirge-like to the song being piped in. It was "Nothing Worth Living For." I thoroughly enjoyed it. Evidently someone on the production staff is a VF fan. Have fun, Jason -Pat. Says: This was mentioned on the list last summer, but it never hurts to remind people to look for this show in repeats. Hell, Sabrina's been on three times already, and we're bound to see it again since it rated so highly. I think I'll pass from now on tho. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Birth Announcement ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I would like to announce the birth of a bouncing baby Didgeridoo. It weighs in at 141cm end to end and has an 8.5cm opening at the trumpet end, it also features hand painted fish totems. It came to me (from me and Chanukkah Harry) late last week. I waited three (3) weeks+ for it to come to me from Australia. I am so so so happy. I have got the basic drone most of the time. I have a long way to go, I think, before circular breathing and so forth. I am overjoyed. Maybe a year from now I will place a small sample or link to one in a message to this mailing list. I am also overjoyed that the Femmes are continuing to tour. Not sure why though? Happy Gregorian New Year! Jesse ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~