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Best viewed with Courier size 10 maximized screen ************************************************************************ The Quote Of The Day: My telephone book is the color red Red is all in my head Some things are left better unsaid Is that why you don't try to acknowledge or reply? -From Telephone Book -Submitted by popadakj ************************************************************************ TOUR DATES (NEW TOUR DATES MARKED WITH **): Dec. 29- 8:30 pm, Electirc Factory, Philadelphia, PA, $17.50 (P,T) ($0.25 of each ticket goes to charity) Dec. 30- 9:00 pm, The Boathouse, Norfolk, VA, $15.00 (T) Dec. 31- 7:30, Patriot Center, Fairfax, VA 52.50 Plus 6.75 service charge for phone orders!!! Call 800-551-7328 to order (O,P) (With Pietasters and Squirrel Nut Zippers) NOTA BENE: 'O' stands for the Official homepage 'P' stands for Pollstar 'T' stands for Ticketmaster 'I' stands for Insider Info All other references are subscribers To book a show, contact Monterey Peninsula Artists. 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RE: Other Bands RE: Other Bands Band Response...Black Girls No Social Commentary?? Re: Never Tell Re: Never Tell He likes American Music Compilation and Freak Magnet Freak Magnet ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ TO CT? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ when are the vf coming to connecticut? Bassist311 -Pat. Says: When someone invites them. I guess you missed the Danbury show this spring. Too bad. It was one of the best. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~RADIOHEAD. ~RADIOHEAD. ~RADIOHEAD. that's it. thom yorke is the most talented, emotional, and diverse singer/songwriter i have ever come across. radiohead is phenomenal. period. -Drew thenewkid80 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi everyone, Besides VF, my favorite bands are: Morphine, The Cure, Smashing Pumpkins, Lincoln, TMBG, Weezer, Sonia Dada, Alice In Chains, Radiohead, Better than Ezra, Rusted Root, Maggie, Pierce and Ej, Moxy Fruvous and my dearest of the dear, Pearl Jam. I also love my daughter's boyfriend's band, Overlord. Adam is right, everyone should check out Maggie, Pierce and Ej. They have such a great sound. Someone mentioned Lincoln before. Does anyone know if they are still together? The last two times I saw TMBG, they had Lincoln's bass and guitar players with them. I have been searching the Village Voice for some Lincoln shows, but nothing for a while. BTW, I think Gordon is pretty intellectual. Every time I've spoken with him, he has had some pretty good things to say. Marylee Rubaiyat ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Band Response...Black Girls ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ first of all I have to say THANK YOU!!! to all the people who responded to my question about favorite bands, and there was a lot of you. It is pretty interesting to see all the differences and at the same time all the similarities. Second of all I like Mustard Plug too, and I'm from NY. And last of all, about Black Girls....WHO CARES. It's an awsome song so lets leave it at that. Thanks again Joel TeamEnos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ No Social Commentary?? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >I just don't >think Gordon has the right kind of intelligence for clever social >commentary. I was just wondering if Jeff has ever hear the following songs by the Femmes: Dahmer is Dead, Dating Days, World We're Living In, Lies, Lack of Knowledge, Old Mother Reagan, No Killing, I'm Nothing, Mirror Mirror (debatable on whether it fits in this list)...... I am sure there are other clever social commentaries by the Femmes that I just forgot, but don't these fit the bill? Daniel dkubiak ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Re: Never Tell ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >I was wondering if anyone can tell me what "Never Tell" is about. Good question... Never Tell is definitely the absolute best Femmes song in my book. From what I've figured out: You are right about one thing, the narrator/singer is most certainly deceased. He was sent much more then six feet under, though, speaking of the heart of Hell and all, which is probably why he's so ticked. The person he's come back to speak to is most certainly alive, and female ('Hey sister'... 'Listen to me baby', etc.). While alive, he had trusted her with a secret, which she betrayed to the 'authorities' or whomever is on the side of the right. The narrator is a rebellious person, who patronizes any authority. (The whole beginning: "Oh please pardon me Mister/ Father" Police/Religion.) He did something wrong, she found out, he warned her not to tell ("I will find you out/ I will cut you up"), she told anyway, he was killed either in attempting escape or execution or some such thing, he was strong enough to survive the Inferno ("I stood right up in the heart of Hell") and leave somehow, if only temporarily, and he came back to make good on his promise ("You ain't never going to tell on someone"). He now has her trapped and is taunting her, cynically and mockingly. The 'some people stand like trees' line seems like it could possibly be a reference to Dante, but I highly doubt it because it would be used in the wrong context (he's speaking to a living person about the standards of living people) and, as I've said before, Gordon doesn't use allusions in his songs. Sink down, sink down, sink down. Down, down, to the bottom of the River sink down, sink, sink down down, Down, down to the bottom of the river sink down... Jeffrey_Wilson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Re: Never Tell ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I always though Never Tell was about a disturbed child who drowns his sister because she was a tattle tale. DISCLAIMER: If I'm wrong, it's because i can't concentrate on lyrics when there's such great instrumentalism going on in the background. MySamisName SDavid4810 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ He likes American Music ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My friend Nick is an exchange student here at Rice University by way of Cambridge. When I got to know him this year, we naturally started talking about music and found our tastes to be pretty similar. Mostly we wander around singing old Clash songs (which confuses the average american college student who's maybe, maybe heard Rock the Casbah). Anyhow, here's where the femmes come in. Nick and I exchange the cd's we think best represent the music of our respective countries. He gave me the Stone Roses and Massive Attack. What could i trade Nick to best represent my taste for American music? I gave him Hallowed Ground. Of course. Folk, gospel, blues, punk... all within the framework of u.s. rock n' roll. Perfect, haunting, powerful, diverse. I'll admit it's not their most accessible album, but by far, their farthest reaching. Nick thinks it's pretty odd. But he likes it. Josh heyzeus ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Compilation and Freak Magnet ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hello there! i was wondering if that video is still comming out or not? And also, what was that web page where you can order Freak Magnet? -Mike SubAddict -Pat. Says: Well, the craziness of the holidays has put both Deana and me in our individual little tailspins. I have to send her some more stuff, then maybe we can get a little more. I did say I couldn't guarantee Xmas delivery, but it won't be much after that, I don't think. I think the web page is http://www.slcd.com If I'm wrong, someone who has bought FM will be sure to steer you in the right direction. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Freak Magnet ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ok, i just received my copy of Freak Magnet and first of all Pat, i'm sorry, i couldn't wait any longer. I promise i'll buy the released one when it finally comes out. anyway, wanted to give my two thumbs up on the CD. I've heard Bad, Rejoice and Be Happy, and Freak Magnet in concert, but the whole album i was impressed with. Really like the third song, All I Want, just might be my favorite one on the album, haven't decided yet, or heard the album enough. The remake of I wanna see you Again is really good too. Anyway, overall i was really impressed, now i just have to go see another concert, this time being able to sing the songs they play from Freak Magnet. well, back to my paper....seven days until I graduate. Bobby V. vanallen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~