12-09-98 pt.2

Best viewed with Courier size 10 maximized screen ************************************************************************ In Today's Issue: RE: Other Bands, Black Girls RE: Other Bands, 12 times ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands, Black Girls ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <> First on the subject of must have albums: The Best of Chet Baker Sings Melissa Etheridge and Tori Amos John Gorka I know Washington Squares John Doe Meet John Doe Concrete Blonde L7 Sonic Youth Annie Lennox- her voice is so exceptional check out Eurythmics stuff also Throwing Muses Kristen Hersh Soundtrack for End of the World I'm Your Fan- A tribute to Leonard Cohen Ian McCulloch Sugar Neville Bros (esp Yellow Moon) And when checking out They Might Be Giants, Do not omit the first album with frolicking pink snowmen! The The Mind Bomb Belly Swans Burning World Replacements Let It Be Interesting Off beatfemale vocalists: Tanita Tikaram, Julia Fordham, Toni Childs, Nina Simone, And even though she is full of herself-Sinead O'Connor, Bonnie Raitt, Paula Cole, Shawn Colvin, Michelle Shocked (esp Short, Sharp, Shocked) kd lang (even before she crossed over to pop), John Cale, Paul Butterfield (esp Better Days), and I like Tribe not to mention Pretenders, X Cowboy Junkies, Talking Heads... Anything by Saint-Saens, Diane Reeves- Amazing Jazz Vocalist I got off track. I believe the song Black Girls is a reply to the songs from the musical HAIR (original Broadway Cast Please) "Black Boys" and "White Boys" I think that they are social commentary, satire. I can see that Hallowed Ground might offend religious people, but no, I find great comfort and solace in that album. Lirker ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >his head in a loaf of bread oh my i am in a terrible mess then...... is brian ever going to release another album?? Maybe he is recording with sun~ra on saturn....???#?$?%?^ <<>> you must be mad?? oh wait...senior..ooops...you are not crazy after all...."lovesick blues" has to be one of the best songs ever...I always ask (yell at) gordo to play it in hopes that he will hear my request and jokingly sing a line or two...i'm sure if he knows it....and it would make my minute if he covered that song....i do have him on tape singing a line or three from the tennessee waltz...that's not by hank but i like it.. <> Actually i like hearing coltrane and elvin jones..i don't know if this is humping music #$%#$% but i like to listen to it when i'm alone.... soundtracks...i like the pink flamingo soundtrack....i love that spaghetti western twang..i just found out that divine was a writer or co-writer of two vasolines songs....scary!!! <<>> i can say a lot of stuff about the beatles...white album bullshit..... zappa freakout zappa freakout zappa freakout!!!!! sorry pat lou reed was on sessions this week if anybody cares.....does anybody have the sonic youth performance on sessions from about two years ago??? <<>> ewwww...uh i have to go yikes Kyle_Souza ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oh my God, another Mustard Plug fan!!! They're one of those bands that I thought maybe was only popular locally... I have a friend whose band has opened for them, I've seen them a few times. They're out of Grand Rapids, MI, and I'm in East Lansing, MI so I'm pretty close to them... or maybe you're from MI, too, and that's how you know them? That would be kind of sad... I'm so happy at the thought that someone who is not a Michigander knows them... ok that's all... Sorry this isn't exactly Femmes related, Pat, I'm just very excited... Andrea alexa135 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Well, I would have to start off with The Cure. I'm a fanatic about them. Then I would mention Chris Isaak (Pretty different I know, but I love his voice, as well as the music), then Marc Almond/Soft Cell (His voice is incredible as well), Tori Amos, The Beatles, Oingo Boingo, Danny Elfman's Film Scores, Christopher Franke (Babylon 5 scores), PJ Harvey, Nick Cave, Depeche Mode, very early Neil Diamond (back when he rocked- Check out Classics), Film scores in general, The Police, Sting, and others. I don't paricularly like country music, except for Junior Brown. And I can't stand rap or most R&B (Seal is pretty good, though he is more pop). There is definately more music that I like, I spend the majority of my money on CD's. This is a good representation though. --- Chris Staley cstaley Visit the Violent Femmes message board at: http://red.cscwc.pima.edu/~cstaley/femmes/board.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I guess I have varied tastes -as most VFs fans tend to do - but I do have some that come to mind. . . No particular order: TMBG, Velvet Underground, NIN, Cowboy Mouth, Five-Eight, Sonic Youth, Lou Reed, Dr. John, Prof. Longhair, James Booker, James Taylor, Jimmy Buffet, Tom Waits, Self, Fluid Ounces, Harry Connick Jr, Nirvana, Garth Brooks, Sun Ra, and Pierre Henry (thanks to VF), Portishead. john #3 DidacticCP ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ << I was wondering what other bands you guys listen to >> in addition to the violent femmes, i listen to barenaked ladies, dave matthews, cranberries, phish, natalie merchant, pearl jam, eve6, mm i don't know what else. ~erin ear4888 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Other bands, uhm, let's see... In my opinion, if you like VF you MUST love: - Pixies/Frank Black - Throwing Muses/Kristin Hersh - The Cramps - The Velvet Underground (and both Lou Reed and John Cale) - Talking Heads/David Byrne - Camper Van Beethoven I'm also a great fan of: Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Man or Astro-Man?, Tom Waits, Iggy Pop/The Stooges, Patti Smith, Pavement, Sonic Youth, Julian Cope, Sparklehorse, Primus, Gun Club, Mano Negra, The Cure, Siouxsie & the Banshees, The Clash, The Pogues, P.J. Harvey, Massive Attack, Beck, Grant Lee Buffalo, R.E.M., The Jesus and Mary Chain, Primal Scream, Mark Lanegan/Screaming Trees, Jonathan Richman, Eels, Morphine...and of course Beatles and Stones. Oh, I forgot Belle & Sebastian! I could mention some Italian group such Mau Mau, C.S.I., Marlene Kuntz and the best ever Italian singer (Paolo Conte), but I'm afraid you don't know them... But the most exciting music nowadays is played by SOUL COUGHING and THE JON SPENCER BLUES EXPLOSION! Go and see 'em live, if you can: it will be a thrilling experience! Andrea hanzzzz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi from Melbourne Australia. In response to the favorite music question I love all the oldies but goodies mentioned Morphine etc but at the moment Im very into Placebo the group ("a friend in need is a friend indeed" but the rest of the album is brilliant they sound a little like old Cheap Trick but thats only vocally) I also listen to old Australian stuff Hoodoo Gurus, Hunters and Collectors, Weddings, Parties Anything. However I can never get by the Seattle stuff , love it all !( I used to live in Portland) Thanks for reading great question bye Magda akkerman -Pat. Says: Well, of course you know that the Hoodoo Gurus broke up only this year, and they put out albums up till that time. I liked them too. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'll have to agree with Sean on this one. Weezer, and the Rentals are wonderful. I'm completely in love with them as well as the Mr. T Experience (nice poppy punk music) Another lesser-known band that everyone should check out is Lincoln. The singer kinda sounds like Kermit the Frog at first, but it's endearing and the whole band is really talented. Well, that's all. Thanks Kelly KARTH ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ << Joan Osborne and Jewel are right on the edge of this border>> How dare you mention Joan and Snaggletooth in the same TIME ZONE let alone the same SENTENCE?! You must die for this offense, infidel!!! I just count my lucky stars that you didn't throw in Tori Amos, my personal angel (being a girl who hates to sin). Jewel is not of a caliber of any of these ladies, nor is she on par with Ani DiFranco. Jewel is trite, whiny, annoying, and stuck up, and couldn't write a decent song if Tori lowered herself to the point of giving her lessons. Okay, I'm done. Obviously, I like Joan Osborne and Tori Amos. I also enjoy the sexy stylings of Jonny Lang, also a mediocre songwriter, but ohhhh that voice, that guitar... it makes a girl reach for the cotton panties and run to the front of the stage! Fleetwood Mac is always nice, speaking of sexy male guitarists (ohhhh Lindsey). I'm done drooling now. :-) Claire Lottelita ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hmmm....some of the other stuff I like.... well, being a little punk-ska freak I'll have to start with the stuff that nobody I know would equate with me :TMBG(Apollo 18 rocks), Clapton blues stuff, Ledbelly, Old REM, Weezer, if you can find it Precious, Bob Marley, Ani DiFranco, The Impossibles, Cows, Kalvin Krime, Social Distortion, Ween, Primus, and John B. UK drum and bass stuff (lots of jazz), Devo, Talking Heads, Atom and his Package. Now for the stuff people can equate with me: NOFX, No Use For a Name, OLD Bosstones, Less Than Jake, Ramones, Bad Religion, Queers (very ramones/beach boys), Hepcat, Rancid, Operation Ivy, Vandals, Guttermouth (my current fav punk band), anything on Asian Man Records, GG Allin if you can stand him, ALL, Descendants, Mustard Plug, Toasters (the BEST trad/3rd wave ska band in history), most old punk, most 3rd wave punk/ska, and the Bouncing Souls. And just a note... I don't know how many people will agree with me, but myself and many of my friends consider the Femmes VERY punk. If you consider punk as only a musical style, then they only fit in a wee bit, but if you go by the definition of punk as only an attitude, then the Femmes fit in perfectly. They are very punk in their attitudes towards music and in their lyrical stylings. Just something to think about....... Keep it real and don't change over the summer. See you next year. Colin PsychoEvil ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Besides the Femmes, I just recently got into They Might Be Giants. I only have one CD of theirs, Apollo 18, but I listen to it constantly. I was into the classic rock for a while, like Deep Purple, Ozzy Osborne, Cream/Clapton, et al. I got sick of them after a while. The only artists from that era that I still like are Eric Clapton and Jimi Hendrix. On to the 80's: it was another phase that has passed already, but I still listen to J. Geils' Band, and I have a few Best of the 80's CDs that deal mostly with the pop electronic music of that decade (the reason for this is mostly nostalgia). The new "alternative" music is pretty much all crappy (in my humble opinion), with the exception of Cake, Beck, Butthole Surfers, and a few others. I tend to like music in which the musicians show off their skills (a la Brian Ritchie). The music I tend to stay away from is disco, the currently popular alternative/mainstream/modern rock, rap, and most country. MySamisName SDavid4810 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Other Bands ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <> Bob Dylan, Ani Difranco, U2, DAVE MATTHEWS BAND!!!!! UEdge2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~