12-08-97

AMERICAN MUSIC: THE VIOLENT FEMMES MAILING LIST currently run by Pat. Wary ************************************************************************* The Quote Of The Day: Don't look this way with your changing point of view. Just sit on a fence and pretend to be you. -from Love and Me Make Three -Submitted by (Aside from Pat.: Brian would be so pleased to see one of his lines, doncha think?) send your VF quotes to ************************************************************************* TRADE, SELL OR BUY When your wishes are fulfilled, please email to have your name removed from this section. This feature will run on Mondays only. ------------------- Would like boots of the following shows: 9/95 Maritime Days 1/96 Winterfest, Icehouse (first show) 7/4/96 Summerfest, Marcus Amphitheatre 8/97 Waukesha County Fair Plus, I know there was a guy with a video camera at the Winterfest show. ----------------------- Wanted: a copy of Film Noir, or any other VF material. Will trade a good quality '89 show at the Metro in Chicago. ------------------ Wanted: boots from Brian Ritchie solo projects. Will trade for VF stuff; write for details. Also wanted: boot of November 14, 1996 University of Maine Orono show. ------------------ Wanting to buy: a boot of the Lisle gig in IL. ------------------- Wanted: any VF boots, particularly the 9/16/97 Palace show in Hollywood. Will trade for the following boots: 8/1/83 New Orleans, LA 1/20/85 Berkeley, CA 9/27/91 Seattle, WA "Film Noir" ---------------------- Wanted: any VF boots. Will trade for the following boots: 50 Replacements and Paul Westerberg shows 1 Jonathan Richman Big Star Pixies OR will trade 2 blank tapes for each show. ----------------- Wanted: any VF boots. Will trade for the following boots: 3 Nirvana 1 Sonic Youth 1 Sex Pistols 2 Rolling Stones 1 Who -------------------- Wanted: boot of the Carrol College show (WI), end of 96. Will trade copy of Tom Waits singing a Jack Kerouac song at the Allen Ginsberg Memorial show earlier this year, or will pay cash. ------------------ Wanted: boot from the Nov. 8th show at House of Blues in Lake Buena Vista. Will trade whatever I have.... ------------------------- Wanted: a video released in 83 or 84, Femmes live, called "No, Let's Start Over." I think that this was actually a legit release from WB that never took off. Will offer free cassette copies of "Film Noir" and "Kiss Off", both live in europe 1984. --------------- Wanted: Violent Femmes MP3's. I have Blister in the Sun. -------------- Wanted: Violent Femmes bumper stickers. --------------------- Will trade copies of Film Noir for other shows, not necessarily just the VF. ----------------------- Boots available at my homepage: http://csclub.stthomas.edu/~drentlaw/ Also I have a Video from Wisconsin of them. ---------------------- Will tape copy of GPB Soundtrack.just send me a tape and two dollars for postage. ************************************************************************* ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO IMPROVE THIS LETTER SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO ANY AND ALL CORRESPONDENCE CONCERNING THIS LETTER SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO ************************************************************************* WEB PAGES: Official: http://www.vfemmes.com Unofficial: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mmerry2/femmes.html Guitar: http://www.bucknell.edu/~wtorres/violent_femmes/ TAB DIGEST: The tab digest is give and take; remember to share what you have. ************************************************************************* In Today's Issue: RE: GPB Soundtrack..What to Get Next? RE: Ages RE: Ages RE: Ages RE: Ages Lyrics Questions ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: GPB Soundtrack..What to Get Next? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have a reply on two accounts, both of wich have been discussed plenty, but, hey, i need to put my 10 cents in. So here goes: 1) Saw, and absulutely loved Gross Point Blank, it's no cinematographic masterpiece, but it is one kick-ass cool movie. I went out and bought the soundtrack the next day after seeing the movie and played it to death, aside from two Blisters there is also Los Fabullos Cadillcs' "matador", which is an awesome song, and a bunch of other very cool '80's stuff 2) About the Femmes albums here's my list ( 1 is the most favorite): 1. Why do birds sing 2. Three 3. Hallowed Ground 4. Violent Femmes 5. new Times 6. Blind Leading the Naked 7. Rock!!!!! 8. Add it up 9. Machine the single ( has couple of other songs on it) I guess that's it, although it's up to you if you want to spend money on all of them you definetly MUST have Three, Why do birds, and Violent Femmes renata ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Ages ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What is the average age of people who listen to the Femmes. In the beginning it was mostly a teenage- 20s group. most of the people I've seen at concerts are in the 14-25 range, but this is 16 years after the Femmes debuted, so you'd think their following would now be mostly the 30-40 year set. However, like all good music, Femmes music has the power to cross generations and remain popular (much like the Beatles or Pink Floyd). Gordon once said in an interview :'One thing I've noticed over the years is that, as I got older, the people coming to our shows were getting younger'. Femmes music obviously appeals strongly to the 12-17 set. So I'd say the average age is around there, but there are many many people in there 30s and 40s that still love the Femmes. GK -Pat. Says: A poll taken a few months ago gave an average age of about 20. It was a very unscientific poll; I was the oldest person to respond (I was 36 then), and I know several people on this list are my age and older. If they had responded they would have skewed the poll up a bit. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Ages ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ << I am only 17 years old and have been a Femmes fan for only about a year. Well, my point is that only a few other people in my high school listen to the Violent Femmes. What are the ages of the majority of the fans? Am I a minority in the VF world only being 17? >> I'm 15, and the people who introduced me to the femmes were 14 and 15 at the time (they are now older, obviously). I think a lot of teens know of songs like BITS, Add It Up, Gone Daddy Gone, etc., but if they don't have nifty friends or older siblings or anything, they might never realize that the femmes have so much more to offer. again i reiterate: the femmes make a great holiday gift! if you're in high school especially, give copies of your favorite albums to your friends; they will love it! claire ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Ages ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In reply to the age thing.. I'm 17, and an avid lover of the FEMMES.. , and even though the teenage following here is limited, the people who listen to the Femmes, LOVE THEM!!! I don't really know any middle of the road people, I found someone who owned an album other than "Add It Up", and that person was DYING to go see the Femmes.. We went together (Nov. 8) and saw one of the most brilliant shows either of us has ever seen. The teenage following might not be excessively huge, but the ones who listen, love. Colin "Dogboy" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Ages ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am 15. I have a few other friends who are only 16 and 15 who like the femmes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lyrics Questions ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here's a question about lyrics: Can anyone submit lines from VF songs which have been taken from other songs or sources? Here's another question: Do you think that when Gordon writes 'They said breakin' up they said it's hard to do' he's referring to the old song 'Breaking Up is Hard to Do' by.. shit I forgot who did it. AAARRRGGGHHH man I can see his face.. Neil Sedaka that's it!(I am sooo good) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~