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AMERICAN MUSIC: THE VIOLENT FEMMES MAILING LIST currently run by Pat. Wary ************************************************************************** TOUR DATES: (NEW DATES MARKED WITH A **) October 10-East Stroudsburg University, Abeloff Convocation Center, East Stroudsburg, PA (O,P) October 15-MontClair State University, Montclair, NJ (O) October 29-The Forum, London, ENGLAND (O) October 31-Sports Hall at Coimbra University, Coimbra, PORTUGAL (O) **November 8-House of Blues, Lake Buena Vista, FL (T,O)** **November 9-The Chile Pepper, Ft. Lauderdale, FL (O)** November 10-Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL (P) **November 11-Tulane University, New Orleans, LA (O)** NOTA BENE: 'O' stands for the Official homepage 'P' stands for Pollstar 'T' stands for Ticketmaster 'I' stands for Insider Info All other references are subscribers Also: **Brian Ritchie will be playing shakuhachi: solo, with others, and ** **led by James Nyorako Schlefer, on October 18 and 19 from 1-3 p.m. ** **at the Ney York Botanical Gardens in the Bronx. Tickets are $3.00.** **Be aware that this is NOT the Femmes. ** ************************************************************************** The Quote Of The Day: I would love to love you lover -From Add It Up -Submitted by send your VF quotes to ************************************************************************** WHO/WHERE Going to a VF concert? Want to know if anyone else on the list also going? Check here first! East Stroudsburg, PA --------------------- Montclair, NJ ---------------------- ************************************************************************** ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO IMPROVE THIS LETTER SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO ************************************************************************** WEB PAGES: Official: http://www.vfemmes.com Unofficial: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mmerry2/femmes.html Guitar: http://www.bucknell.edu/~wtorres/violent_femmes/ TAB DIGEST: The tab digest is give and take; remember to share what you have. ************************************************************************** In Today's Issue: FAU Update Forum Info Needed RE: ESU Sold Out RE: Set For 'KnoxVegas' Show RE: Blister Video RE: Blister Video..Chat Rooms RE: Chat Rooms RE: Musical Tastes RE: Easy to Find Rock Bad and Rejoice Try For Skidmore..Boot Trade? Femmes Popularity A Femmes Story Call For New Topics ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FAU Update ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hello, oh how we femmes fans here in Florida suffer! Femmes concert has been taken off FAU academic calendar, but do not despair, it's not final as far as I know. I called FAU director of events, who was very helpful, and who in turn called Student Government (party responsible for the concert) to find out the following: the auditorium is booked, but the contract is not finalized, therefore the tickets can't be issued, and the box office hasn't been notified. My ever so optimistic guess is, that the concert has been taken of the calendar so not to confuse anybody untill the contract is settled. Also for those of you who live up- north, or unlike me don't have to work on Sat and can drive to orlando there is going to be a Femmes concert at House of Blues, in Lake Buena Vista Nov 8, at 8:00pm Ticketmaster that's all -Pat. Says: Sometimes those signatures take an excruciatingly long time to get. I think many of you in FL will be happy to see the added FL dates. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Forum Info Needed ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Do any of the British subscribers (or anyone else, for that matter) know any details about the gig at "The Forum" on the 29th? -Pat. Says: I can't be sure, but after a bit of surfing I found a place called the Forum in Kentish Town. This is what I found: Forum, Highgate Rd, NW5 Kentish Town Tube/BR (0171-2840303) formerly known as the Town and Country Club. I hope this helps. If you find anything, please let me know. While I'm on the subject of European shows, I do not know any details of those shows, but I would like to. If anyone knows anything specific about either the Forum or Coimbra shows, please share with us all. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: ESU Sold Out ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Oh no! I'm the dumbass! I got my car, Blue, looked at yesterday afternoon and everything checked out fine so I was going to order concert tickets this morning but I called and found out (as everyone knows by now) that they are sold out! (And ~550 mi is a *bit* too far to drive just in the chance that somebody will have an extra ticket to sell at the door!) Damnit, it looked so good seeing my name under the "who's going" list at the beginning of AM! Ah well, the Femmes seem to have a liking for PA so I am comforted that I will get to meet Pat et. al. someday. And as long as the Femmes keep touring I'll keep going to concerts. Have fun everyone!!!! Love to ya---Amber - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Set For 'KnoxVegas' Show ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >I've finally finished compiling the set list for the Knoxville TN show >last weekend. Here 'tis : Wow, that's cool, I saw them in Hollywood on Sep. 16, and the setlist for that was completely different. Not completely, but it was definitely not a replica show like most bands do. They didn't play Out the Window though, dammit. There was this one new song, I don't know what it was called but it had this chick on violin. It was really good, it has me looking forward to the next album, even more than I was already. They ended with Add It Up too, and that was incredible!! Everybody knew it was coming and Gordon milked the moment for all it was worth. Oh, it was classic. It's stuff like that that makes you want to be a performer. Nick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Blister Video ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >I have seen the VIDEO! It's for Blister in the Sun. -->I just wanted to add my knowledge to this ... I haven't written to this list before, however, I have read everything that has been said. Before I didn't think I had much to offer ... but this time I do. The video that you speak of, with Gordan is stalking the famous cat, was on M2 the other day, and I remember being really happy to see it ... and then I read yr. letter and it confused me. I'm afraid that the video in question was the BLISTER 2000 video, and not the original video. They played the original video after the 2000 (which matches yr. description) and it was completely different. I don't mean to create unrest, but I thought it should be said, to get the facts straight. LILLY ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Blister Video..Chat Rooms ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The music video that you saw was for BITS, not Blister 2000, however it was NOT for the original song. The Femmes had to re-record Bits for the Grosse Point Blank soundtrack because of problems with Slash, their old label. This is why this version of BITS sounds somewhat different. For those of you looking for chat rooms on the femmes, I run a few off of the undernet: Chicago.Il.us.undernet.org #femmesrule, #who?, #kiss off These are not official, I'm still working on getting bots, I should have one for each in about 2 weeks so give me some time. Otherwise, look for ^She-Ra...........:) ******************************* Smile....You'll live longer :) ******************************* P.S. Mrs. Stoner Ben, I know that you read this newsletter, when are you going to write something???????? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Chat Rooms ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <<>> Ok..so, on dalnet, ifnet, undernet, etc etc? which one so it will all be at the same one...not on 3 diff ones.. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Musical Tastes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I think that almost anyone who listens to the Femmes would have to listen to a wide range of music. The reason being that you cannot classify our beloved Femmes. Think about it. You cannot call them rock; you cannot call them folk; some people have tried to classify them as alternative (I just don't buy into that.) So I feel justified in saying that I listen to the Dead, Aphex Twin, I heard someone else say Paul Simon (fuck ya!), Bob Dylan (The man), Pink Floyd, and a ton of others along with the Femmes. Can anyone disagree? How would you classify the femmes. I might, if I had to, say that they are a funky folk rock band with a crazy twist that no one can explain. Laters, Sandi Barr "In the dime stores and bus stations, People talk of situations, Read books, repeat quotations, Draw conclusions on the wall." -Bob Dylan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Easy to Find Rock ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ as far as green bay sales establishments i would also like to note that Surfin' Bird on main st in green bay frequently has half off sales and at one time had a whole bunch of early femmes cds for like, 4 bucks. excellent deal! jaci -->>why did the chicken cross the road...according to bill gates... "I have just released the Chicken Office 2000, which will not only cross roads, but will lay eggs, file your important documents and balance your checkbook." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bad and Rejoice ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In the last news letter some one was commenting on these two new violent femmes songs. The reason Gordon makes the comment about knowing your Bible well before he plays Bad, is because the second half of the song is paraphrased from on of the apostle Paul's letters in the New Testament. I belive it is 1 Corinthians. I also have heard this song in concert. The other song Rejoice is another classic Gano gospel original. The main line goes like this, "Rejoice and be happy for His name sake, rejoice and be happy for our Saviour told us to, rejoice and be happy when men revile you." The last part of that line is a quote from the gospel of Matthew, chapter 5 verse 11. I spoke with Gordon about this song and he said they were going to put it on the new record. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Try For Skidmore..Boot Trade? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I just got to school about a month ago (skidmore college) in saratoga springs and i remembered someone saying that they were from the area, i am not sure about getting the femmes to play here but we could try, anyway write me at I also just got a live tape from this guy, it looked kind of sketchy but the tape is really good, Gordon has a lot of audience interaction and stuff. If you want to trade with me from something you have like that (such as live performances of the femmes, thogh other bands are cool too) write me at that address i put up above. thanks paul - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Femmes Popularity ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I just wanted to share my little violent femmes experinces. I never realized how many people know the violent femmes because I never hear them mentioned until the last month..... The first time I was at work and my friend was being accused of being high (he wasnt) we were in the back working and he was talking about it all of a sudden he sang "Im high as a kite I just might..." and the song was stuck in my head all day! Then I was talking to this girl in my class and we were talking about listening to music in our cars and she mentioned the femmes. Then I was at a Third eye blind concert 2 days ago after the concert was over a group of girls were standing around singing songs and we were all singing along, then they starting singing BITS it kinda shocked me but it was really cool to see how many people like them! well just thought i would share! Jill - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A Femmes Story ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ in 1994, here in Tucson, the femmes had a concert. At one point when Gordon was just sort of strumming along, talking to the crowd, he said, "When we come to Tucson, and we pass through here only about once a year (I wish. They sure don't play concerts here that often) you know where we always go? We go to Eegee's! (loud cheers from crowd. segue into the next song). Eegee's are a frozen fruit slushie, and it is also a local chain fast food store. Besides their delicious drinks, the have fantastic subs. Well finally last December I got to see them again, this time in Phoenix (great show; if you want my whole story on it, I have it written down somewhere) After the show I went around to the back of the theatre and waited for them to come out (along with only 10-15 other people) I had brought the poster that I had bought two years ago with me, to see if I could get them to sign it. Brian came out first, and he signed some stuff, and talked with people, let them take photos, etc. I asked him to sign my poster which he kindly did. Then Gordon came out, and the group of people made a beeline for him, but I noticed that Guy was walking quickly towards their van, so I walked over to him, and asked him if he would be willing to sign my poster. He seemed surprised that I would actually want his autograph. I thanked him and he disappeared into the van. (I was actually the only person who got him to sign anything that night) I then made my way over to Gordon (and now the point of my story) and asked him as well to sign the poster, which he did. By this time he was a little bleary eyed, and looked like he could use a good nights rest. I reminded him about the concert in Tucson, and how he said that he liked Eegee's, and he immediately got this glazed look in his eyes, a smile spread across his face, and he said "Mmmm, Eegee's!" - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Call For New Topics ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just an observation- almost every single entry in the last AM was either about ROCK! or live shows. I don't mean to trash, but aren't these tired subjects? ROCK is good, get it, pay however much. Femmes are great live, they're playing somewhere near you, you and your boyfriend went to the show and you hate the mosh pit people..... come on! There HAS to be some new subjects out there. We got tired of the Victor/Guy debate right when it was really getting interesting, but now all we can talk about is "safe" subjects and personal experiences. What's the deal? Have we lost our edge? (I always think I'm going to get flamed on the next issue, but I never do. Speak out! That would be a good discussion.) -- Paul -- "The stars in the sky are very bright. The stars in the sky are very bright. The stars, they really suck tonight. The stars in the sky are very bright." -Phish (Dude of Life), "Sanity" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~