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HERE I AM: Tell me where you live for the Here I Am list. ************************************************************************ In Today's Issue: Tempe and Phoenix The Tempe, AZ Show!! PAL and NTSC Kudos to Deanna and Pat and others... Question ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Well, I have company here for the next few days, and so unless I get up at 4 AM like I did this morning, there will be no Monday issue. Keep writing, though. It is possible that we may be able to get ahold of a video of "Flamingo" live on an Australian kids TV show, played with only kitchen implements. More on that later. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tempe and Phoenix ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am almost 100% positive that No, Let's Start Over is out of print. When I asked Brian if it was rather rare is when he said that If I found one over here it was probably a bootleg. I think it came out in the mid '80's. The concert at the Outback on monday was video taped I know, because after the show, they were playing the video of it on the monitors around the club. I'm going to see if it would be at all possible to get a copy of that tape. I'm pretty sure it was the club that taped it, not the femmes themselves. Tuesday night there were a couple highlights, the first was that Brian sang a new song, "Leave our Music Alone" which he explained after he sang it had been written by their bus driver. It was rather scathing, but unforunately I don't remember how the lyrics went. The other thing is that Gordan sang "Dance MF, Dance"! There were a couple people in the audience that were yelling out for it between songs, and after one of the songs, brian walked over to Gordon and whispered something to him. Gordon then walked up to the mike, strumming his guitar softly, and started to sing Dance slowly in a soft voice. This went on for a minute or two, him singing with this huge grin plastered on his face. It was classic. --- Chris Staley cstaley remove the NO_SPAM to reply Visit the Violent Femmes message board at: http://red.cscwc.pima.edu/~cstaley/femmes/board.html -Pat. Says: I need to be extra-sure that No, Let's Start Over is out of print. A couple of people have said that they think it is. If so, we can include it in the compilation video, but if it is still in print, we can't, since it is an official release. Would somebody in England please check this so that we can be sure? Even if there are copies floating around, it still may be out of print. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Tempe, AZ Show!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Tempe Show on Tuesday night was my favorite show out of the five that I have seen (in two years). These shows have included Milwaukee, Washington, D.C.(3 times) and now Tempe. You would think that Milwaukee would have been the best, being their home town, but I beg to differ. Last night, the Femmes and the crowd were awesome! It seemed like a lot of people knew most of the lyrics. This was very unusual since most of the time the audience sings only "Blister in the Sun," "Add It Up," and "Kiss Off." Guy and Brian were telling jokes. I have never seen Guy be so talkative and "goofy" at a show before. Guy told two jokes. One was something like...."How do you know when drummer is ringing your door bell?...."There is a pizza delivery car outside." I didn't clearly hear the other one. He also was in the spot light for a little bit more than usual and showed a variety of crazy and playful facial expressions. Gordon's said that he wanted to share his political view (or something to that extent) so he wanted to "dedicate this next song to Bill Clinton" which was Add It up. He also did this at the Newport Folk Fest a month ago. I didn't get a chance to see meet them. I looked for their van but couldn't find it. I will hopefully meet them next time. Emily M. @ Arizona State University msclone ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ PAL and NTSC ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------ >Now, here's a problem: I am aware that many of you on this list do not >use VHS format, but PAL (and I don't know how many versions of PAL we >will have to deal with). Several of you may ------------------ You may be surprised to know that the rest of the world does, in fact, use VHS. What we don't use is NTSC, the American television standard, largely because it's a poor system that is often referred to as "Never Twice the Same Colour" for good reason. We do use PAL (Phase alternating lines), but it is usually used on a VHS cassette. Most medium to high quality domestic video players will play back both PAL and NTSC here in the UK. I wouldn't be surprised if the situation is similar in the US. Of course, having a "proper" conversion done would give better quality, and I would say that this should certainly be considered for the "european masters". As for the rest of the world: France, I believe, uses SECAM - but I'm not sure how many French sources there'll be. Australia, I think, uses PAL, but a different version to Europe. Other areas I know little to nothing about. I hope this information helps, as I'd really like to see this project get off the ground. Xav -- xav http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~xav "It hath whirred into life" -Pat. Says: Thanks, Xav. That really cleared things up. I will want to convert, and so I need a European distributer, and an Australian one. I don't believe we have any French subscribers at this point, but I need to know from Arjan what system is used in Russia, that is assuming you want a copy. Haven't heard from you in awhile; hope you are enjoying all your new CD's! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kudos to Deanna and Pat and others... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FINALLY, a VF Video compilation! I am so excited I can hardly type. My tape of No, Let's Start Over is definitely wearing out, and I need something else. . .It's time more VF fans start taking action to help out everyone else who wants SOMETHING new. If the band's not gonna do it, we might as well. :> I think it's truly honorable that you ask for no money, either. Good luck to all of you, I wish I could provide help, but I'm not sure if I can do anything. Please email me if you need any distributors in the Chicago area (it might give me an excuse to get a new VCR). . . john #3 DidacticCP -Pat. Says: Honor has nothing to do with it in this case. This whole compilation thing may be in a legal grey area, but I think that accepting money would be definitely illegal. But as I said Wednesday, we will accept boots as gratuity! If you have no boots, you'll get the tapes anyway. If you have no videos to contribute, you'll STILL get the tapes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Question ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i just wanted to know what other people's opinions were of THE BLIND LEADING THE NAKED. it's always been one of my favorites and all my friends think it's not one of their finest. so do you think you could give me some feedback?? asliney -Pat. Says: When it first came out, I was very disappointed, and thought it too commercial. I even put it away and didn't listen to it for years. In fact, I lost track of the band completely until Why Do Birds Sing? came out. That brought me right back, and made me take TBLTN out again. I now love it, although I will never list it as my favorite. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~