09-22-97

AMERICAN MUSIC: THE VIOLENT FEMMES MAILING LIST currently run by Pat. Wary ************************************************************************** TOUR DATES: (NEW DATES MARKED WITH A **) September 22-Luther Burbank Center, Santa Rosa, CA (O,P) September 23-The Fillmore, San Francisco, CA (O,P) September 25-Marzz, Raleigh, NC (O) September 26-Carolina Music Fest, The World Mardi Gras, Charlotte, NC (O,P) September 27-Smokey Mountain Jamboree,Knoxville,TN (P) October 9-Benedictine University, Lisle, IL (O) October 10-East Stroudsburg University, Abeloff Convocation Center, East Stroudsburg, PA (O,P) October 15-MontClair State University, Montclair, NJ (O) October 29-The Forum, London, ENGLAND (O) October 31-Sports Hall at Coimbra University, Coimbra, PORTUGAL (O) NOTA BENE: 'O' stands for the Official homepage 'P' stands for Pollstar 'T' stands for Ticketmaster 'I' stands for Insider Info All other references are subscribers ************************************************************************** The Quote Of The Day: You're so passive I'm filled with wrath We could take a bath. -From I Wanna See You Again send your quotes to ************************************************************************** WHO/WHERE Going to a VF concert? Want to know if anyone else on the list also going? Check here first! Santa Rosa, CA --------------------- San Francisco (Sept. 23) --------------------- Charlotte, NC --------------------- Knoxville, TN --------------------- Lisle, IN --------------------- East Stroudsburg, PA --------------------- Montclair, NJ ---------------------- ************************************************************************** ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO IMPROVE THIS LETTER SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO ************************************************************************** WEB PAGES: Official: http://www.vfemmes.com Unofficial: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mmerry2/femmes.html Guitar: http://www.bucknell.edu/~wtorres/violent_femmes/ TAB DIGEST: There are currently 14 subscribers to the tab digest. Mat respectfully asks "every one please send in their tabs as there is only so much time I have and I can't possibly tabs everything for every one." So please remember the tab digest is for sharing, not just taking. ************************************************************************** In Today's Issue: Can Anyone Help Me on This? Montclair Info Needed About ESU? Lisle Info Needed All Apologies What to Buy RE: Influences RE: Influences RE: Influences Excited...Influences A Love Story This n That ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If anyone knows Mark P. McClean from Australia, please email me. He wrote me to say he was going away and asked to be temporarily unsubbed so that his mailbox would not be filled up when he got back. The only problem is, the address he used is not in my list of subscribers. He must be using a different one for this newsletter. I have tried to contact him, but he has not responded, so he must already be gone. Please, if any of you can help, please do so. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hello! i'm just wondering if anyone knows where i can get tickets to the montclair show on oct. 15th?? i've never been to a femmes concert and i'm dying to go....also if anyone knows any possible transportation (bus, train) that stops there, please let me know, being that i'm a minor without a license or a ride....thanks!! Beth -Pat. Says: Ticket info is not yet available, but it should be all ages. Check out the Montclair University homepage for transportation information. It is very detailed. The URL for that is: http://www.montclair.edu/General.nclk#Directions ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I saw that on the "whos going list someone is from marist, Is that concert near poughkeespie or are you traveling? thanks Jill P.S. my brother has a big influence over my music ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Any news on when tickets go on sale for Lisle? thanks, Tom ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ sorry for offending anyone on that last message. looks like it got a little, uh..... feedback. apparently i once again incorrectly conveyed my thoughts, as a few people were upset by my contribution to american music. but to clear it up, all of the things you thought i was saying weren't what i thought i was saying. (being afflicted with a significant case of attention deficit disorder i sometimes ramble and have trouble getting to the point without the help of these little parentheses sidetracks) but in any case....i didn't say i was the original femmes fan. not by far! i guess i was trying to say that i was getting sick of people who were sick of people like me and you, and to let them know that not all of us are totally ignorant. looks like i did it in vain. for this, i apologize. -beth ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >I've been to the femmes for a long time but never got around to getting >their CD's but i saw them live on SAT and i want to get all the CD's but >what one should i get 1st thanks >why can't I get just one screw believe me I know what to do but >something won't let me make love to you why can't I get just one fuck.... I think the best one personally is the first one, "Violent Femmes." Every song on it is really good. I just went to their show on Tuesday at the Palace in Hollywood (best show I've ever seen thank you) and they played 8 of the 10 songs on that album. However, Add It Up, their greatest hits album is also really good, except Kiss Off and Add It Up are live versions, but it's also got stuff like American Music, the Country Death Song, and Out the Window. You know what, FUCK IT, get all of them. Nick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hey all, Yes it is true, a lot of music tastes when you just start out come from siblings. i know my brother and sister shaped me (musically) to what i am today. My sister, although she only really introduced me onto 1 band, i am forever grateful. I am talking about the violent femmes. Although my brother started me at an early age with his music, and till today (it's been 8 years now) i've still lead down that path. He got me into my favorites. . . The Grateful Dead, Rusted Root, Dave Matthews Band, Creedence Clearwater Revival. And i just combined the influence of friends, and family, to lead me where i am today. i have nothing more to say, so bye bye. Elad ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My older sister influenced me! I was hooked in the mid 80's because of her. She also loves them. I really want to thank her for hooking me to such a great band. But Toni is right, older siblings DO have an influence on what you listen to! Raylene ************************************************************ http://www.sru.edu/depts/artsci/engl/wfl/rmt/raylene.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ in response to what someone said about having older siblings influencing what you listen to I totally agree! my bro got me into too much joy, tmbg, nubile thangs, and others. i mean i have my own taste as well but he was a big part of it. it's hard not to like something when you hear it being played alot in your house! this is also my first post and i think this list is pretty cool. i love being a part of something in which everyone has a common interest. hardly no one i know likes the violent femmes! i kind of like it that way to. sometimes if i like something alot i don't want to share it. you guys may not understand that but it's true. so i'd just like to say my favorite VF song is I Held Her In My Arms. and catch you guys on the flipside! -Theresa "I want to get hurt" John Cusack in Say Anything ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hey folks. First off, let me tell you that hearing all about the Greening of the Mackay concert is getting me sooooo excited. I get to see Femmes for the first time next Friday. I was reading like 4 issues of American Music (school and things are keeping me a little busy) and I just got that super bubbly feeling and I just KNOW that I'm going to be in more ecstasy seeing Femmes than I was at Goldfinger last weekend. You've done a sufficient job of pumping me up!! I'm just worried because I've been deathly ill (and was at the concert I went to last weekend) and I have this awful hack that is going to get me at the show. I ALMOST was not going to be able to get to go because my brother said he's seen Femmes so he wasn't going to take me. He gave in when I almost started crying. Yes, that is how bad I want to see Femmes. I would've cried for 2 weeks straight if I don't get to go. I"M SO EXCITED!!!!!! In reply to TONI: Yes, my brother influences my music more than I can believe. One of my first times of hearing of the Femmes, my brother was sporting a concert shirt he had bought at a show in Chapel Hill. It's his fault I love They Might Be Giants (he got me on them YEARS ago) and Dead Milkmen and Shonen Knife and TOOL and the likes. It's my step sister's fault that I love musicals so much. It's my 2nd older brother's fault that I love punk music so much. It's my fault that 4 younger sibs and 2 of my cousins love Violent Femmes (and I mean they go crazy over them) and that they like The Queers and Less Than Jake and Goldfinger and Melissa Etheridge and Smashing Pumpkins amongst others (my little 7 year old sister stole 2 of my cds while my 10 year older brother stole 4 of them). Your siblings have the most influence I'd say of anyone on who you like. My parents got me into Cat Stevens though. I LOVE FEMMES AND AM SOOOO STOKED AND EXCITED ABOUT SEEING THEM...I might die of anticipation first!!!!!! I'm so happy I just thought all of you should know!!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi all, I'm NOT going to say how long I've been listening to the VF, how many concerts I've been to, who the better drummer is (by any criteria), who's cuter, who's fatter, what a true fan is, my favorite song, my first album, how many albums I have, or how old I am. What I will say is about the first concert I went to. I went with two friends, Mary and Tom, that I worked with and we had a blast. At the time, I had been trying to fix up Mary and Tom and the concert seemed like a way to get things started. Tom and I asked Mary if she would like to go to the concert with us. It went something like this: She said, "Sure! Who is it?" Me: "The Violent Femmes." Mary: "The Violent what?" She said she'd go, and put it on her calendar as "The Violent Fins" (She didn't admit to this until months later.) Alas, nothing materialized between them and we continued to go out and have fun as a group for about a month. I urged Tom to ask out Mary but he was too shy or something. One night we were planning on going out, Tom had to cancel so just Mary and I went. We had a great time together and were soon dating. Four years later Mary and I are now married, and Tom was our Best Man! Every time we hear any Femmes song we can't help but think back to that fateful night when our friendship began at that awesome concert. We've seen them in concert since then and although they've all been fantastic shows, there won't ever be one like the first. That's my two bits. -GW ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ As for discussion of real or unreal or surreal, or multireal femmes fans I have no problem with it. Hell thats what the newsletter is about. I do get annoyed sometimes, but I don't always have to read that letter and as for you Pat if you don't want to put it on don't or if you want just post it without corrections. Another point to kermit, if she would read the last AM (15) she'd see I have neatly and concisely outlined how a new femmes fan should buy their albums, if she wants she can read it, or E-mail me for a copy or just never read it and hurt my ego, it doesn't matter. Third, did I hear someone mention the horns of dilemma? John Zorn was just at coney island high but I missed it and my brother who went just missed him. (He was really there to see his HS band Hallucination station) But Zorn will be at the knitting factory with a few others soon and again just by himself. I think he'll do mostly jazz stuff by himself and bug out stuff with others. Anything else? Oh and practically all the music I listen to is because of my big brother. That is all except the femmes. And some other stuff. he has changed my life in so many ways through music that I'll write about it some other time, cheerio (or something) Oh and pat I'm sorry for spelling stuff what can i say you spoil me by saying you'll correct it. Then i don't worry about having to to try to impress people with my spelling. Thanks again if you do it. If you're too tired, just forget it and print as is. That is all. -Pat. Says: I can't help it, I am driven to edit. But OY(oi) Jack you do push it :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~