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AM Fan Letter • 1997

08-25-97

THE ROCK!!!!! VIOLENT FEMMES MAILING LIST currently run by Pat. Wary ************************************************************************** TOUR DATES: (NEW DATES MARKED WITH A **) September 1-Mill City Music Fest, Wharehouse District, (P,O) Minneapolis, MN September 12-Greening of Mackay, Montreal, QUE (P) September 13-Shoreline Amphitheater, Mountainview, CA (O) September 14-Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA September 16-The Palace, Hollywood, CA (T,P) **September 17-The Palace, Hollywood, CA (P)** September 18-Canes, San Diego, CA (T,O) September 19-The Glass House, Pomona, CA (T) September 21-The Catalyst, Santa Cruz, CA (O) September 22-Luther Burbank Center, Santa Rosa, CA (O) September 23-The Fillmore, San Francisco, CA (O) September 24-The Fillmore, San Francisco, CA (O) TENTATIVE September 26-Carolina Music Fest, The World Mardi Gras, Charlotte, NC (O,P) for more info call 704-333-2263 September 27-Smokey Mountain Jamboree,Knoxville,TN October 10-East Stroudsburg University, East Stroudsburg, PA (O) NOTA BENE: 'O' stands for the Official homepage 'P' stands for Pollstar 'T' stands for Ticketmaster All other references are subscribers ALSO: THE INSECT AND WESTERN PARTY September 4- The Back Room, Flint, MI September 5-Artspace, Windsor, Ontario September 6-Zoot's, Detroit, MI September 8-JR'S Warehouse, Traverse City, MI September 10-Lunar Cabaret, Chicago, IL VICTOR SHOWS August 29-The Globe, Milwaukee, WI **August 29-9:30 pm, Maritime Days, Milwaukee, WI ************************************************************************** The Quote Of The Day: I wanna see you again I don't care where and I don't care when I wanna see you again Cause this beginning will have no end Bring your whips, Bring your chains We can exchange names... -from I Wanna See You Again send your quotes to ************************************************************************** WHO/WHERE Mountainview, CA --------------------- Charlotte, NC --------------------- (?) Knoxville, TN --------------------- Santa Cruz, CA --------------------- East Stroudsburg, PA --------------------- ************************************************************************** ANY SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO IMPROVE THIS LETTER SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO ************************************************************************** WEB PAGES: Official: http://www.vfemmes.com Unofficial: http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mmerry2/femmes.html Guitar: http://www.bucknell.edu/~wtorres/violent_femmes/ !!!NEW!!! Mat would like to start up a digest for people interested in !!!NEW!!! trading info on tabs and chords. All interested parties !!!NEW!!! should contact Mat at: !!!NEW!!! !!!NEW!!! ************************************************************************** In Today's Issue: RE: Victor VS. Guy RE: Victor VS. Guy, San Diego? RE: Victor VS. Guy Bitter Victor on August 29 What Victor is Doing RE: Sick of BITS Blister, Blister, Forever Annoying RE: Sick of BITS Blister2000 BITS on Video Question RE: Poseurs RE: Johnny Santa Cruz Chart Positions n Stuff Boots Mark Van Hecke Question ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ REMEMBER TO VOTE!!!!SEND IN YOUR VOTE BY AUGUST 30 TO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is really a worn out subject, but I've never commented on it, so I might as well. The Femmes best album (you can't possibly tell me any other one was better), the debut, was played on by Victor. The drumming was sharp, surprising, and really complemented Brian and Gordon. Guy is good, but Victor, at his reasonably young age, was just more interesting and inventive. It doesn't matter what kind of guy someone is, as long as their music stands out. And Victor, much more than Guy, seemed to know the Femmes' music enough to really put a lot into it. There's more, I guess, but that's all I can think of right now. -- Paul -- "Aaah, fork!" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Okay, first off, all this Guy vs. Victor crap is getting REALLY annoying. They're both in the bestest band in the world, they're both good, so just SHUT UP about it already. *sheesh* Anyway, I need more info on the SD show, does anyone know anything more? E.G., is the venue all ages, or am I going to have to get a scab ID? (Remember, I'm the 15 year old.) I looked in the SD Reader, which is basically the authority on concerts and everything else going on in America's Finest City, and there was no mention of it. And here's an idea: Everyone who lives in San Diego, join me in lobbying for free tickets! Call the Flash and 91X, and maybe we can get them to give the Femmes some publicity! See y'all later.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On why Guy is a better drummer. He is cuter! This is coming from a 21 year old who has seen Victor and Guy. I think that is grounds for him being a better drummer! :) Raylene ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <> Hey Hum - careful man you're spewin' hot aura! I think Guy is better and I could post plenty of specific examples however this discussion prompts me to say - LIVE IN THE NOW MAN! Last time I checked it was Victor who left the Femmes and the fans not the other way around. Now there's something Victor did that made me say Wow! BTW if it's just about the Music for ya enjoy it and just don't buy the T-shirts and crap! Oh and you might want to get rid of the liner for New Times 'cause a drummer who shall remain nameless designed it :O ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Victor is playing 9:30 Fri August 29th at Maritime Days, a lake front festival, NOT at the Globe. James Schrader ************************************************************************* To append my last message, after reading coon's, it may be possible that victor is playing at maritime days AND playing at the globe before or after that. The globe does feature many late night shows. james ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pat. says: This post is in response to a question I asked James. I'm including it because I know that many of us are curious as to Victor's activities, post-Femme. Victor is recording a new album (due out late fall), and is occupied most of the time at his studio (joe's place) but he's still got time for his family and everything and frequently goes to his son's things at school, and is quite involved in helping out with his son's band, the Moon Crickets. This is starting to sound like a freakin' PEOPLE Magazine. Maybe i'd better stop ... That's about all I know anyways. James ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I've been reading a lot of Blister in the Sun bashing. Do you realize how many ppl start of Femmes by hearing Blister in the Sun? I think I might of heard Blister in the Sun on the radio once or so before I heard them on CD. I think that my best friend played Add it up, Kiss off, and Waiting for the bus for me first. Then Blister in the Sun. When I heard Blister in the Sun during the movie Grosse Point Blank in the movie theatre, I stood up and started dancing. Honest. The members of the band Skifdank (a Florida originated ska band) were in the movie too. Every time I heard Blister in the Sun, I crank up the radio and belt that song out. When I see Femmes on Sep. 26, if they don't play Blister in the Sun, I'll be one pissed off puppy. Femmes is best known for Blister in the Sun. The older ppl I work with even know who the Violent Femmes are bcuz of Blister in the Sun. How many of you would know who the Femmes are if you had never listened to Blister in the Sun? That's how I got my cousins and my brothers and my 6 (at the time) yr old sister into Violent Femmes. However, if I HAVE to pic a fav fav fav song (other than Blister in the Sun..which will remain my favorite of all time, Add it Up, and Kiss Off) I'd say Lies (what an incredible song). I've spent soooo many hours on this one trying to figure it out. Which leads me to a question. What's your favorite Femmes song? (If this is all allowable by Pat), you can mail ME your answer and after a few weeks, I'll tabulate the results and see what came out on top. Oh, and you can include your least favorite too (don't forget to tell which is which)... Beyz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Well to be honest and all, I don't think anyone who is a femmes fan can say they've always dis liked blister. Personally when i got into the femmes back in eighth grade that was the song that did it. A friend lent me their first album and before that I didn't even know their name. I mis understood it when my friend said the Violent femmes I thought she said the Violet Gems (or something like that) I rmember listening to that album with my mom in the room man how embarrassing with gimme the car. I kept on listening to blister. I just rmember it really effected me (or affected I don't know)in a very profound way. later for christmas the same girl got me Add it up, and the rest is history. I'll always respect blister for doing what it did. My only qualms about it is that people sometimes never listen to anything else. Right now I'm sick of it. When i saw them live I was very dissapointed when they played. (unlike when me and my brother snuck in to see Page and Plant, I respected them so much due to the fact that they never played Stairway. Even though that's all the over weight drunken crowd wanted to hear.) I just want the femmes to widen their music horizons as well as my friends. I get really annoyed when I see my friends singing blister just because its on (the) My So Called Life Soundtrack. Sure I'm gald they like it but they should get some albums and really get into the femmes. I mean VF have songs just as good as that if not better. and when someone says they're into the femmes I don't want to ask them oh what albums do you have, and they either say one of two things, one "oh I just like that song oh what's it called with 'I wanna go....' bister yeah that's it" or "Oh I just have Add it Up" well if people like the little things they do hear from the femmes why don't they get more? Oh well, that's my prblem , I don't know if it's with the femmes or the kids that just like blister, the song itself, or me, oh well. (on second thought it's the kids) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Femmes Fans- Why are you all against BITS? It's a catchy little tune and most people start listening to their other songs because they like BITS so much. I don't know about you but I started listening to the Femmes because of BITS. Also, what kind of fans are you? I like all their music. luv mel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hello...I'd like to make a comment concerning the whole Blister2000 thing.....I own the Gross Point Blank Soundtrack which both the original Blister in the Sun and Blister2000 are on. I must say that like Blister the original way. It's one of those songs that is fun to rock out to. Blister2000 moves way to slow and pisses me off. That is my 2 bits ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hello, I've seen a couple of people mention that they saw the new BITS Video on 120 Minutes. I was wondering how often they play it on 120 Minutes because I haven't seen it yet, or if they ever play in on regular MTV videos? Thanks. -Telisa ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >I still think that a MAJORITY of the writers of this >letter are more concerned about the IMAGE of liking bands like the >Femmes I've never really noticed that the "image" of liking the Femmes carried all that much clout. If someone likes the band, why not let them be, eh? Everyone's idea of a "true" fan is bound to be different because we all value different things. It really doesn't make much sense to attack each other over something like this. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ this is only a rumor so i dont know if it is true or not. i heard the song was about Gordon's girlfriend(if so i don't know why they wold use a guys name) and she died somehow and so he wrote the song. but i really am not sure, it's only a rumor. -kara ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i just wanted to say thanks for posting all of those dates. i'm so excited that they are coming to my town, santa cruz. i'm going to buy tickets tonight. and just for knowledge, the catalyst is quite possibly one of the best venues for a show of any proportion. small night clubs make the shows more memorable and much more entertaining. plus, if there are annoying people there, the bouncers can kick 'em out. :) dunno why i just told you that. oh well. thanks again -kat (jet girl) j eeeee t jj ee eee t ttt t jjjj eeeeee ttttttttt jjjjjj eeeeeeee t ttt t jjjjjjjj eeeeee ttt jjjjjjj eee tttttt jjjj tttt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Recently I E-mailed Record Research, a company that specializes in "Billboard" chart data, concerning the Violent Femmes. The reply said that the Femmes had never had a single chart on the "Hot 100," the leading barometer of popular music in America, but they did have several albums chart on the corresponding "Top 200 Albums" chart, as follows (in alphabetical order): Peak Weeks Album Title: Debut Chart Date Position Charted 1. 3 02/04/89 93 13 2. Add It Up (1981-1993) 10/02/93 146 3 3. New Times 06/04/94 90 4 4. The Blind Leading The Naked 02/15/86 84 24 5. Violent Femmes 08/03/91 171 7 6. Why Do Birds Sing? 05/18/91 141 5 For those who are interested, I have been a Femmes fan since 1988. I have seen them twice, once at Lollapalooza in Dallas, TX, in August 1991, then at a college in Kirksville, MO, in September 1995. My favorite Femmes song would have to be "Nightmares." I own all of the group's CDs and sealed copies of many of their LP's. I have two sets of autographs of the original group (one of the "Violent Femmes" LP and one of the "Hallowed Ground" LP), and one set of autographs from the post-Victor femmes (a T-shirt I bought at the Missouri concert that Gordon, Brian, and Guy signed). Other memorabilia I have collected includes an 8x10 glossy photo dated 1988 with the Slash Records logo, a few posters, several T-shirts, a bumper sticker, a recording of the infamous "Sabrina" episode, several import CD's (including the European version of "The Blind Leading the Naked" with Victor's "World Without Mercy," unavailable on CD in the U.S.), several 12-inch singles, the promotional "3 on 3" interview LP, one Victor solo album, one Brian solo album, a bootleg cassette tape titled "Violent Femmes Live in Chicago," and copies of every Femmes video that I know of: "Gone Daddy Gone," "Children of the Revolution" (an official Warner Bros. copy), "Nightmares," "Breakin' Up," and "Blister 2000". My most prized item of Femmes memorabilia would have to be the promotional 12-inch single of "Nightmares" -- clear vinyl. It's great. Chris Hatch ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Howdy! First of all i'm glad to see this list finally getting a regular distribution which stimulates some interesting discussions. Keep it coming! I'm always interested in trading bootlegs of the boys. I've got about 8 or so tapes of them now and am looking for more. Email me your list and i'll email you mine and we can work something out. On a related note, does anyone know if the Femmes care about taping shows? Have they ever said in an interview that they are against taping? Or has anyone had any experience taping them? Do they mind mic stands or do you have to stealth it? I've always been disappointed that they aren't taped more as they are, IMHO, one of the best live bands around. I was going to tape the show i saw here in Denver a couple months ago but at a show just a couple days before someone spilled coke on my deck. Then after getting it cleaned up it was stolen! Argh! Anyway, lets try to spread the music around! Thanks! Greg ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ What ever happened to Mark Van Hecke??? He did such a wonderful job on the production of the first 2 records???? humdrum ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~