06-24-96

Subject: ROCK!!!!! for 6-24-96 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE ROCK!!!!! VIOLENT FEMMES MAILING LIST currently run by James Schrader In Today's Digest: * * * Re: ROCK!!!!! for 6-10-96 my mistake The Guffs & The Refreshments Femmes at Lolla! ROCK!!!!!: Dance, Motherfucker, Dance Vidio Collage ROCK!!!!!: New Concert Date! #ViolentFemmes Re: Rude, Azure, Holly Re: ROCK!!!!! for 6-12-96 bootlegs Femmes on da radio RE: Femmes Punk? Re: ROCK!!!!! for 6-12-96 Re: ROCK!!!!! for 6-12-96 Re: ROCK!!!!! for 6-12-96 when my love is so strong * * * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 Subject: Re: ROCK!!!!! for 6-10-96 Hey, GenXBayb mentioned that the Femmes will be at Summerfest, any idea when or on the status of getting tickets???? Thanks!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 Subject: my mistake I feel like a real idiot but on my last entry in to ROCK!!!!! I asked if their were any fans on the east cost what I meant to say was west cost. I am a dumb ass. p.s. thanks MS JENNIFER A BECKER ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 From: TRUMAN EMILY Subject: The Guffs & The Refreshments> hi :) i do talk about the femmes too.. anyway..i was went to a Refreshments concert a few days ago and i had never heard of the opening band, The Guffs. Well! the first thing they say is they are from Milwaukee!! and i'm like cool! so anyway..i really enjoyed their part of the show great music and the band interacts with the crowd really well..inbetween the 2 bands i went to go buy the guffs' cd and i was talking to the dude selling them..and i asked if the guffs will be at summerfest, and he said yes :) they will be headlining one of the stages at night, he thought the 5th of july..so to all of you going to summerfest..check out the guffs.. then..the Refreshments came on..and..after many songs guess what they break into??!! KISS OFF!!! the crowd went crazy! the only song did they cheer and mosh more too was the Refreshments own song, banditios(i think its called somethign like that) their version was pretty good...(not like who ever totally fucked up add it up in the movie, reality bites..) {{hi yosh, blister, and fukthecia(are you on the list?)}} i take 10 10 10 10 for everything everything everything everything!!! emily -------------------------------------- **NOTE FROM JAMES: Oh, Just so you know, it Gufs, not Guffs. I'm not trying to be picky or anything but just though you should know. Everybody go buy every one of their 6 CDs. They are awesome (in my opinion). You don't have to though. If you don't like them that's fine with me. I really don't care whether you like them or not.** -------------------------------------- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 From: El Kabong is not a song Subject: Femmes at Lolla! I heard (first rumors, then announced at a local radio station today) that the Violent Femmes are playing Lollapalooza (at least at Buckeye Lake, OH where I am). I don't know if they are playing any other dates. Seems sorta weird! oh well I got tix & will let you all know how it went. :) femmesfemmesfemmesmfemmesfemmesfemmesfemmesfemmesfemmesfemmesfemmesfemmesfemmes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 From: Femmes Freak Subject: ROCK!!!!!: Dance, Motherfucker, Dance In the 6/10 ROCK!!!!! digest, someone wrote: > 2. And if so is that why I have never seen them in concert or am I just not > looking hard enough? > > 3. I love every one of the Violent Femmes tunes but is it just me who > thinks > that DANCE MOTHER FUCKER DANCE is the most moronic song ever written? > Please someone explain this strange phenomenon with me. Perhaps on the CD Dance, Motherfucker, Dance sounds stupid...but there is just something about Brian belting the song out during a concert that makes this probably one of the best live songs I can think of....anyone who has been to a femmes concert (I think) will agree with me.... Once you do see them in concert (BTW they are on the east coast a lot), you'd probably understand rob=) ----->18 days until the VIOLENT FEMMES at Milwaukee's very own Summerfest!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 Subject: Vidio Collage All right, my friends and I, who might I add are really into the Violent Femmes. We are orginizing a vidio callage of the Violent Femmes. But sadly supplies are limited. I beg of any of you, if you have it to send footage of Violent Femmes Vidio's, Concerts, TV appearances, you know that sort of thing. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE e-mail me, ChewVitC, if you have anything. Please tell me what the vidio is of. Please keep in mind that I will send you back you vidio tape, unless for som very very very strangs reason you don't want it anymore. I will also send you the tape when it is done. Please help out, I really would appriciate it. Thanks so much!!!!! -Kara ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 From: Femmes Freak Subject: ROCK!!!!!: New Concert Date! Just found this from http://www.pollstar.com ...thought i'd pass it along... THE VIOLENT FEMMES WILL BE AT ROCK FEST '96 IN CADOTT, WI ON JULY 18!!!! Cadott is about 15 miles west of Chippewa Falls and just north of Eau Claire, in other words...Western Wisconsin...something like 80 miles east of the Twin Cities. From what I understand, Rock Fest '96 is a 4 day festival. Also on the 18th are Golden Smog, and Sheryl Crow. Acts for other days of the festival include Kansas, 10,000 Maniacs, and Ted Nugent... Also, for those of you planning on going to Summerfest this year...a complete schedule of all the groups performing for the enitre festival is located at http://www.summerfest.com rob=) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 From: Azure! Subject: #ViolentFemmes Hi, You may not want to put my last msg about a bot on irc in the digest, as the information is out of date, because the bot is now up and kicking!!!! I'll send you another msg for the digest about ppl getting ops and everythign shortly :) Leah ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ rom: Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 Subject: Re: Rude, Azure, Holly Hey Rudebass The Dead Milkmen ROCK! But I like the Butthole Surfers better! Azure! Love the idea of a big Femmes family! Let me know when and where! And Holly where in Alabama are you? I'm in Knoxville TN -Femmes played here last August- and they played in Nashville in May so I doubt they will hit my state again for a while! BUT they have been known to play in Bama before... I saw them at Lambda Chi when I was in school at Auburn Univ.! A Femmes fan's DREAM! Only about a thousand people and they played forever! I'll let you know if I hear of anything west of the Mississippi! By the way does anyone know what the signifigance of the Lambda Chi fraternity is to the Femmes? I think they've played several shows at other campuses and I noticed when I searched for Femmes info the other day on the net that a link came up to the Lamda Chi homepage - haven't had time to check it out yet though. Hey by the way guys - it's a little trendy - but if you haven't checked out Superdrag you should! It's a local indie band made good- Sraight from the underground clubs and White street parties of Knoxville TN! Their first vid (Sucked Out) debuted on 120minutes two weeks ago! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 From: (Rick Lupert) Subject: Re: ROCK!!!!! for 6-12-96 To the person who asked whether anyone had been exposed to the Femmes by any album other than their first album first. Yes. I first bought Blind Leading the Naked in 1986. It hooked me...I, of course, have them all now. After a show once I had the opportunity to talk to Brian and he said that they usually ignore Blind Leading the Naked and 3 when they play. Which of course there are many exceptions to as I'm sure all you concert going fans would agree with. It occured to me that the non avid-femmes fans really don't care for these two albums much and I was sad that Brian would acknowledge this by making a conscious effort to not play songs from those two much. (In case you didn't know, it's Brian who calls out the songs to play as the concert goes on. They don't go out with a set list.) Anyway...I've seen them 15 times and hope to see them at least that many more. Of course they don't have any Los Angeles dates scheduled as of yet. C'est la vie. Rick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 From: "Julianne :)" Subject: bootlegs In response to a previous questions about Femmes fans on the east coast, I must enthusiastically respond, "WE ARE ALIVE!!" I live in southeastern Virginia, and when the Femmes come here, they ROCK what seems like the entire state. Tickets for concerts sell out almost immediately (as expected -- they ARE the *Femmes*, aren't they? :) ) I am looking for some bootlegs -- I am willing to accept almost anything. I've seen the Femmes twice -- the first show I was too stupid to record it, the second time the tape was lost in a move. :( (I went into mourning for what seemed like months..) If anyone has any good things, I'm willing to either send a tape for a copy, or trade...(I don't have any Femmes, but I have a few other recordings...) Also, someone asked about tour dates ... there are some awesome Web pages for the Femmes...A guy named Mike Merryman has probably the most indepth one. Usually he keeps the dates accurate and posts new concerts very quickly... Good luck... :) Thanks.... Julianne I am the Eggman, They are the Eggmen, I am the Walrus! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 Subject: Femmes on da radio For John (Noidless) who listed Femmes songs that have been on the radio, I heard "Breakin' Up" as well as "Don't Start Me On The Liquor" on a St Louis station back when New Times came out. Plus the Breakin' Up video came on Beavis and Butthead once. As I rebel and riot Josh ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 From: "D.Martin" Subject: RE: Femmes Punk? Hi. I have always considered the femmes to be a type of folk rock with an edge, but if you look at what was considered punk when they started out (sex pistols, ramones, and other hard-core) and compare it to what is considered punk today (anything that is played on 120 minutes(at least the last time I watched it 2 years ago)) you have to wonder if the Femmes had any influence. BTW I have also been a big fan of Bad Religion and The Dead Milkmen as long as I have been of the femmes, also the first femmes tape I heard was Hallowed Ground. Some people say that there's a woman to blame But I know, it's my own damn fault --Jimmy Buffett Danior ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 Subject: Re: ROCK!!!!! for 6-12-96 Hi Everybody~ I just wanted to tell NoidLess that here in New Jersey I've heard Please Do Not Go on the radio last year. I wanted to tell him so he could add it to his list. I get so excited when I hear them on the radio, but I hate it when all of these people say they love the Femmes when all they know is Blister In the SUN. I am also a Femmes lover from the East coast. I got into them 3 years ago, and have been hooked ever since! I saw them live for the first time May 30. I almost died. It was the most amazing thing ever. After they played Good Feeling Brian Richie appologized for singing a song with rythm, and then suddenly they burst into an awsome version of Dance M.F. Dance. Maybe that song isn't the best, but it really is fun in concert.Well, talk to everyone later. ~Rachel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 Subject: Re: ROCK!!!!! for 6-12-96 Hi all I have great news!!!!! Well a lot of you probaly don' t know who the Bouncing Souls are but this is still pretty cool. On Friday(June 21st) I went to see the Boucing souls, Weston, and Lifetime in NYC. My friend that went father knows the lead singer's father so we got to go back stage!!!! We talk with him for a little bit but I was mostly in shock because I had been listen to this mans vocie for every and now I was there talking with him in person!!!! When we went back my friends and I were standing around talking when we thought of how we should have gotten him to sign our shirts. My friend asked his father if he could get them signed for us so he went out to get a marker and when he came back he went to go get them signed. When he came back I was so happy that I had a shirt signed by the lead signer, Greg Attonto!!!!!! My other friends, Becky and Tammy, has gotten Weston T-Shirts so two of the guys in Weston signed their shirts. The cool twist to this is that the guitarist came out and says to my friends that he doesn't normally sign shirts so he had them sign his shirt. This was one of the best days of my life!!!!!!!! -Nina ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 From: Patrick Marton Subject: Re: ROCK!!!!! for 6-12-96 I felt a need to write, so finally I am. I've been on here since the first issue, so away we go. I am 16 years old and live on the east coast (that knocks off about 20 requests from people right there :) I live in Maryland in fact, about 20 minutes from the UMBC campus, which if any of you femmes fans are on the net, Where Mike Merryman runs the best page on the net, the Unoffical Violent Femmes Homepage. So, I mike, I wanted to drop you mail but if you read this, I guess now I don't. Love your page dude. ANYWAYS- The first Femmes album I heared was Hallowed Ground, and it wasis my favorite album. I have every Femmes album, with the exception of "Film Noir". can't get anyone to import it for me :) I also have a bootleg that I made from there show at JHU. I know every lyric (test, me please!). I've been listenting to them since I was 7, so I've been around a while. I've seen them in concert twice (supposed to be 4 times :). Met Gordon, Brain, and Guy once, nice guys, they really are. My favorite song is NOT Blister in the Sun, in fact to tell you the truth it is one of my least favorite songs. In my opinion it's overplayed and over rated. I don't like it very much. My favorite songs include "Never Tell", "Good Feeling", "Promise", "Please Do Not Go", "Faith", "It's Gonna Rain", "World Were Living in", "No Killing", Hey Nonny Nonny", "Johnny", "I saw Her in the Crowd", "I'm Nothing", and "I wanna See you agian". Not really radio favorites, I'll admit, but these are where Gordons songwriting talents really shine ("Add it up" has great undertones for sucide too). I'm in a band, 4am, we are a folk blues band (there is only too of us :), I sing and play guitar. Right now we cover "Please Do Not Go", "Good Feeling", "Hey Nonny Nonny", a few others. Femmes really are the best band lyrically. They redifne Teen angst and mix in Blues, Folk, Rock, and Punk. A taste for all. Know in answer to "Dance Mother Fucker Dance". It's totally a concertParty song. When I was in a punkrock band, everytime we did that song, the audince went crazy. It's just to have fun. It also shows all the different types of music Gordon and Brian can go into. Like "Faith" shows us the femmes are acctually really good Blues Musicans, this shows us they can kick ass with the hardest of Alterntive rockers. Just wanted to drop a line (a bit longer than I wanted to) to say to all of the old Femmes listeners, there are some young listners that are really into the Femmes more than the first album. My favorite song is "Never Tell" and I can see half the mailing list going, "huh?" A note to the young listners: I know the Femmes are amazing, but you need to expaned your horizons past the First album and the "Add it up Album". Gordon Ganos song wirting is amazing on "Hallowed Ground" and "Blind Leadin the Naked". The femmes are more thamn the annoying song of "Blister in the Sun". -Later, Patrick Marton ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 From: TRUMAN EMILY Subject: when my love is so strong hello =) a week back or so i found out my friend josh (HI JOSH!!) would be having a friend of his come visit during the time i'll be up in milwaukee for summer fest..and i told him my little story of hopes and dreams for going and he wanted me to send it to the list. so this was for joshy, my texan pal...see ya in august baby ;) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 18:47:15 -0600 (MDT) From: TRUMAN EMILY To: Subject: when my love is so strong cool..you'll have a little pal to keep you company while i'm seeing the femmes..hunting down gordon, meeting him in his hotel room, with whips and chains..i'll bathe with him of course..i'll kiss him i'll screw him and i'll fuck him..then we'll go to a prom...get drunk..do too many drugs..then after we take over the world with his machine then learn french i'll find another guy and he'll fall down dead i'll never see his tears, then he'll go out the window and i'll take 5 5 5 for my lonely. but none of this can happen unless his dad gives him the car..but he's been locked inside his room by his parents...so..now my love is gone daddy gone. ok..now for some stuff for rock!!!!! one of the radio stations played Waiting for the Bus! that was cool but i only heard them play it that one time. i wish everyone going to milwuakee for summerfest a safe and Femme-filled trip! about IRC: i'm personally adicted to it...i think a channel with a bot for opping us on the list and for discussion of femmes and other stuff would be great. =) who else on this list is big on irc? --speaking of which BLiSTER--are you dead?!?! caterpilr/cocoon its summer and i'm just a little dumber emily ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ **FROM JAMES: To, There wasn't enough memory left on my computer to put your letter in here, so I am going to put it first next digest*** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! <> ROCK!!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~