06-05-98

************************************************************************ Newly Confirmed TOUR DATES: August 21- Starts @ 3 p.m., Newport Folk Fest, New World Music Theatre, Tinley Park, IL (O,T) August 22- Starts @ 1 p.m., Newport Folk Fest, Pine Knob Music Theatre, Clarkston, MI, $18-$35 (O,T) August 23- Starts @ 2 p.m., Newport Folk Fest, CocaCola Starlite Ampitheatre, Burgettstown, PA, $15-$40 (O,T) I can not confirm from the Ticketmaster webpage that the VF will be playing the Aug 21 and Aug 22 dates at this point. You'll have to call to be sure. BUT, the official homepage does have these shows listed. ************************************************************************ The Quote Of The Day: Come with us and play! -From Forbidden ************************************************************************ WHO/WHERE Going to a VF concert? Want to know if anyone else on the list also going? Check here first! ************************************************************************ ALL CORRESPONDENCE CONCERNING THIS LETTER SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO ************************************************************************ WEB PAGES: Official: http://www.vfemmes.com Unofficial: http://vf.scopemag.com if this doesn't work, try: http://206.103.163.50 http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/6918 Past Tour Dates: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1725/femmes.html Guitar: http://www.bucknell.edu/~wtorres/violent_femmes http://www.olga.net http://www.harmony-central.com/Guitar/OLGA/all/violent_femmes.html Une banane:Send in your top five faves each week to: . HERE I AM: Tell me where you live for the Here I Am list. ************************************************************************ In Today's Issue: More Useless Information RE: Fave Quote RE: Various Thoughts RE: Covers RE: Bass Tabs..Let's Hear This RE: Let's Hear This RE: New Web Page RE: New Web Page RE: To the Bitter End..Freak Magnet RE: To the Bitter End...Best Femmes Summer Song RE: To the Bitter End..Summer Songs..Cover as Ska RE: Best Femmes Summer Song RE: Best Femmes Summer Song ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ More Useless Information ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Well, I'm sure you're all dying to know how the girl I've been tutoring did on her chemistry final...She fuckin aced it!!! Do NOT ask me how that happened; she must have FINALLY taken my advice and actually opened the book. No really, she got D's all year long I was crossing my fingers she wouldn't bomb and here she got a 95. OK, now to VF related stuff. I was surfing yesterday and found the exact episodes of Beavis and Butthead in which the VF appeared. How's THAT for useless information? OK, if you ever see these episodes come up, watch them (really now, they can't be more painful than Sabrina!): From Season 4, first appeared March 15, 1994, "Cow Tipping". Nightmares is shown here. From Season 5, first appeared October 31, 1994 (part one of a two part show), "Held Back". Breakin' Up is shown here. Oh, Yes, the Official Webpage has a Tribute to Frank Sinatra. I haven't really looked at it, because I have to download a plugin for it, and netscape bombed last time I tried to download it. There's some fairly recent new photos, too. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Fave Quote ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i dont know if this is my favorite quote in music of all times but here it is "Its better to burn out than to fade away" I heard this in the Highlander movie but apparently it was taken in some form from a Niel Young song of name unknown to me -Helmsley2 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Various Thoughts ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >"I'm in Style" was written by Gordon a *long* time ago, before anyone >had ever heard of Violent Femmes, which made the lyrics outrageously >sarcastic/funny. Is there anywhere we can view these lyrics??? Nick () and I have discussed this song off list before. Neither of us remembers the exact lyrics just that they were funny and the last time either of us heard the song performed was circa late 80's. >Regarding Guy Schaafs question, the guys do play "Jesus Walking on the >Water" in concert, but not that often anymore. You may notice they >did play it recently, and Gordon played the violin. Yes Oh yes... He did play the violin in Charlotte NC. It was .... delightful.... Deana ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Covers ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > being a T-Rex song. Every cover song the band recorded has come about > because of strong record company pressure (blackmail?). Fortunately, you think that's bad? An early Lemonheads producer forced the band to record Suzanne Vega's "Luka"... at gunpoint. *smooch* *smooch* love wes +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ | Wesley Torres | | | | http://www.students.bucknell.edu/wtorres/ | +=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Bass Tabs..Let's Hear This ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Pat, I've written a few Violent Femmes bass tabs: agamemnon.btab blackgirls.btab breakinup.btab candlelightsong.btab colour.btab flamingo.btab helikesme.btab johnny.btab please.btab promise.btab sweetmiseryblues.btab thanksgiving.btab iknowitstrue.txt They're all quite accurate. If anyone wants a copy, could they mail me or something? I've sent most of these files to Wes , so they should be available from his archive whenever he updates it... The Femmes really should re-learn how to play "Never Tell": that would be the ultimate live Femmes song, imho. Anyone with a bassline for this song should contact me! Thanks for your time. Visit Australia. We're lonely. thErapy What's worse, ignorance or apathy? Who knows? Who cares? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Let's Hear This ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A couple of questions, do the femmes play "See my Ships" live. I think it would be fantastic live. And also what does Gordon mean when he sings cold cane is my cheap thrill. I have no idea what cold cane is, does anyone. Frank -Pat. Says: Yes, it does say that on the liner notes AND on the Official homepage. I've always believed it to be 'cocaine', even if it isn't so cheap. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: New Web Page ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ oops! Forgot... Hey Grand Kaiser! Did you do too many drugs...... I like it though - the Femmes alternate universe .... Hmmm... I would kinda like to see the guys in full spandex outfits... Ya know - just for art's sake! OHMIGAAAWD - you can see his....... WELCOME HOME AMBER!!!!!!!!!! She, she went to Germany ...... Deana ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: New Web Page ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hey, gk, i love your story. i didn't have time to check out the rest of your stuff, but the femmes story kicked ass. granted, it had no point and was probably a waste of my time, i enjoyed it. i even chuckled out loud. nice work. future story idea: gk takes ginger spice's spot in the spice girls, and beats the crap out of all of them. (except for scary spice, she looks good). just thought i'd share my comments. whitney :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: To the Bitter End..Freak Magnet ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hmm.. one summer when my brother and I were munchkins, we went up north with our grandparents for a weekend. Our grandparents went out golfing on i think saturday afternoon, and Andy (my brother) and I decided to go sit our pier and fish for minnows (we were little, it was cute), but after about an hour we got bored. We got all of our stuff together and went up to the house and sure enough, it was locked. We were stuck outside, so we went into the garage and found a coffee can. (note: when we were fishing Andy was playing the kazoo, so we had one of those with us) So we went across the street and sat on the road side and sang that song "the first time i looked into your eyes i cried" because it was the only real people song we knew by memory. After about ten minutes of me singing and Andy playing his kazoo to the chorus (okay, so maybe we only memorized a little bit of the song, but still) a police car drove by, and they told us we couldn't be there. Being munchkins, we thought we were going ot get arrested and have to have our grandparents bail us out of jail, so we ran back into the yard (coffee can in tote) and started playing there. So, even munchkins get busted for singing for money in public places. I'm sooo bored, can you tell? Also, my friend made me a copy of freak magnet (YES I WILL STILL BUY THE CD WHEN IT COMES OUT, I HATE TAPES!!) and it is really good, like way way good. Here is my opinion on the all of the songs: "I'm Bad" (2:42) - I think this is the perfect opening song to the cd, because it gets me really excited and pumped up. I listened to my tape for the first time in study hall this past monday, and i had the volume turned up a little. I was sitting at a lunch table and i jumped off the bench, people were pretty amused, they almost got a tape player to figure out what i was listening to. sorry, i babble. I've heard this in concert twice now, and I really like it... it makes me do my geometry homework faster which is a major plus. "Freak Magnet" (2:37) - This song was also very good, and keeps you pumped up, kept laughing out loud while i was listening to it, and my studyhall teacher was getting a major kick out of random laughter coming from a person sitting all by themself at a table. it's a funny song, yep... that's all i can think of to say about it. "All I Want" (4:09) - this is like THE song of the album. i love it soooo much, it is sooooooooooo (note: for full extent of so-ness, pretend there are 10 pages of the o's) good. the words and musoc are perfect for each other, and i love it. "Rejoice and Be Happy" (2:11) - fun fun, it's a really good song. religious, good, i like it, mm, yea. sometimes i have a lot to say about songs, and sometimes i can't think of hardly anything. this is a hardly anything case even though the song is really good. "I Wanna See You Again" (2:43) - this song is really cute too, it's slower...but not slow. y'know? ooh, i made a rhyme. umm, yes, it is good. "I'm Nothing" (2:24) - i like this song, and everybody knows it, so i'm going to move on. WAIT! what's new about it? i've never heard the original version... at least as far as i can remember. "Positively 4th Street" (2:52) - this song is really good to listen to when you get exam projects piled on a week or less before exams. very good. fun fun, it kind of pisses me off, though, y'know? like I'm listening to it and i find myself mumbling "God damn impotent nazi cock n' ballers" about my teachers, that could just be supressed rage having nothing to do with the song though.. who knows! "A Story (featuring Pierre Henry)" (4:58) - very very dark, it's good though. it's weird because it reminded me of a davemt band song, because they had a really dark song on their new cd too and it surprised me too. i mean i know the femmes sing dark songs and all, but this was just like "damn" "Happiness Is" (4:20) - i like this song, but i don't have much to say about it. "Forbidden" (2:55) - i like the words to this one, but i can't remember the music to it right now. "Mosh Pit" (2:13) - funny stuff. good. "Yes Oh Yes" (3:22) - this is a nice slow song, i liked it. and the other songs were all good too, but im lazy so i can't type a little note about them. that's all, now i have to go help my brother's girlfriend learn german. -beky ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: To the Bitter End...Best Femmes Summer Song ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ahh seaside...i sympathize with you Drew. i live in nj and im down in seaside quite a lot. im really sorry to hear that people were giving you a hard time. had i been down there i probably would have thrown some quarters in your cases and sang along. i love when people bring out their guitars on the boardwalk. my vote for the favorite summer song would definately be 36-24-36. keep that one. i guess if youre in the mood for a change though, id say pick anything off of 3. :) -shannon-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: To the Bitter End..Summer Songs..Cover as Ska ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Drew, how can I commend you enough! Your faithful, undying support and perseverance is just what we fans should strive to achieve. Okay, I'm done being sappy. I think 36-24-36 is a GREAT song to start off the summer with. Blister in the Sun is a classic, but sometimes ya need a change, you know? I got a question for everyone. I'm in a ska band with some kids from my school, and I would love for us to cover a VF song. Any ideas on which songs would transfer well to ska or swing? I love the whole crazy solo section in the middle of Black Girls, but I don't know if we could pull that off. Only one more week of school--Yay summer!!! Claire P.S. If FM comes out this fall, I promise to write a review of it for my school newspaper, which doesn't suck, unlike our yearbook. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Best Femmes Summer Song ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My fav. Femmes summer song is "Held Her In My Arms". But my favorite summer songs are by the Ramones. Especially "Rockaway Beach". Bobby Sayers Love kills..... -Pat. Says: Is that a quote from the song done by Joe Strummer? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Best Femmes Summer Song ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My favorite VF summer song is also "I Held Her in My Arms", with "I'm Free" and "Life is an Adventure" running close behind, but now that I've heard Freak Magnet a bit, I may soon change my vote to "Forbidden" as the best ever VF summer song. -Pat. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~