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AMERICAN MUSIC: THE VIOLENT FEMMES MAILING LIST currently run by Pat. Wary ************************************************************************ TOUR DATES: (NEW DATES MARKED WITH A **) Apr. 1- Salem State College, Salem, MA (O) TENTATIVE Apr. 2- Brandeis Universtiy, Waltham, MA (O) TENTATIVE Apr. 4- 8:30 p.m. Timkin Gymnasium, Mt. Union College, Alliance, OH $10 (P,O) Apr. 5- 7.30 p.m. Elco Theatre, Elkhart, IN (T,O,P) Apr. 6- 9 p.m. World Mardi Gras, Indianapolis, IN (T,O,P) 21+ SHOW Apr. 7- Knight's Hall, Bellarmine College, Louisville, KY, ~$17.50 (P,O) Apr. 16- University of Wisconsin, Stevens Point, WI (O) TENTATIVE Apr. 17- North Michigan University, Marquette, MI (O) TENTATIVE Apr. 18- 7:30 p.m. McGown Gym, Winona State University, Winona, MN (P,O) Apr. 19- Fargo Civic Auditorium, Fargo, ND (O) Apr. 21- Madison Theatre, Peoria, IL (O) Apr. 24- Center CityFest '98, Charlotte, NC (O) Apr. 26- La Salle University, Philadelphia, PA (O) STUDENT ONLY SHOW May 2- Salisbury State College, Salisbury, MD (O) TENTATIVE May 3- 99X Stage@Music Midtown, Atlanta, GA (O) May 15- Chocolate Fest, Burlington, WI (O) NOTA BENE: 'O' stands for the Official homepage 'P' stands for Pollstar 'T' stands for Ticketmaster 'I' stands for Insider Info All other references are subscribers To book a show, contact Monterey Peninsula Artists. Serious inquiries only. ************************************************************************ The Quote Of The Day: PLEASE send your VF quotes to ************************************************************************ WHO/WHERE Going to a VF concert? Want to know if anyone else on the list also going? Check here first! Waltham, MA (Tentative) ----------------------- Alliance, OH ------------ Indianapolis, IN ---------------- Louisville, KY -------------- Winona, MN ----------- Peoria, IL ---------- Charlotte, NC ------------- Atlanta, GA ----------- Burlington, WI -------------- ************************************************************************ ALL CORRESPONDENCE CONCERNING THIS LETTER SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO ************************************************************************ WEB PAGES: Official: http://www.vfemmes.com Unofficial:http://vf.scopemag.com http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/6918 Past Tour Dates: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1725/femmes.html Guitar: http://www.bucknell.edu/~wtorres/violent_femmes http://www.olga.net Une banane:Send in your top five faves each week to: HERE I AM: Tell me where you live for the Here I Am list. ************************************************************************ In Today's Issue: Wants to Go to Philly Bellarmine Info Charlotte Info Peoria Info Needed Cigar Page? Quotes Cover Talking Heads SoCal Are We Like Sheep? Top 10 Typo RE: Top 10 Again RE: Top 10 Again RE: Top 10 Again RE: Top 10 Again RE: Top 10 Again RE: Top 10 Again RE: Top 10 Again RE: Top 10 Again RE: Top 10 Again RE: Top 10 Again RE: Top 10 Again RE: Top 10 Again RE: Top 10 Again RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Wants to Go to Philly ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i just wanted to say that i am going to try to go to the show in Philly....if anyone is going that could possibly give me a ride i would love you!! I would need a ride from either Wilkes-Barre PA or Brodheadsville PA, which is near stroudsburg PA. i mean i could meet someone somewhere..because I dont have my own car, and i dont think i could get my parents car for sunday...if it wouldve been on a friday or saturday, then it would be fine...but....oh well...someone please get back to me ASAP so i can get a ticket. thanks jen -Pat. Says: Unless you know someone at LaSalle, you're going to have to miss this show. I got this in the mail: <> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bellarmine Info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi Pat! Just heard back from Bellarmine College about the April 7th date. Tickets go on sale Friday, March 20th. You can charge by phone with MC/Visa - call 502-452-8150. There will be only 3000 tickets sold so don't wait too long! I'm also working on the details for the Atlanta and Charlotte shows. I will post it as soon as I get confirmations! -ddearry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Charlotte Info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Concerning the Center City Fest date in Charlotte NC, Friday, April 24.. It's a street festival in downtown Charlotte -just like the Carolina Music Festival last September for those of you who went! For those of you who didn't - they close off about 5 city blocks and set up temporary stages (at this point 4) at the corners of the area. There are food and drink vendors, artists, street performers etc. and there is NO way this can sell out! It's a 3 day festival but none of the headlining acts have been confirmed yet. They were surprised to learn VF had a firm date on their page. Dunno! Anyway tickets are $10 bucks and are *scheduled* to go on sale this Friday. You can charge through ticket monster by phone or just wait and pay $15 at the gate that day! (I would suggest this!) Or you can buy a three day pass for $25. Linda at Ark Mgmt. said NOTHING is definite yet but she will let me know as soon as she gets the official line-up and ticket info! -ddearry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peoria Info Needed ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ if anyone is going to the peoria show in april i would really appreciate any information on where the theater is and how i can get tickets and how much they are and if/whos the opening band. and any other info that would be useful that i forgot to say. this will be a short road trip for me so im very excited for it and i hope everything works out. thank you very much! -shawn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cigar Page? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Did anyone bookmark the addy for Brian's cigar page?!! I need some info and I can't find it! Thanks -ddearry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quotes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ just a question for all the readers, in the top 10, i saw "(i don't need a quote, because I'm cool that way)" (sorry to use whoever wrote this as an example). i notice now that a lot of people put a quote before they sign out. i was just wondering if this was a thing that we should do or we had to do. oh well, just wondering. (?) ~shannon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cover Talking Heads ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i was just wondering...ive been listening to the talking heads too much lately. Is it just me who thinks that the femmes should covor a few of their songs just for the fun of it? id love to go to a femmes show and ...you know Brian could do some babbling and all of a sudden gordon would bust out with some "Sax and Violins", "Burning Down the house" or "Dont Worry About the Government" or "Psycho Killer"...that would be great...just a thought: ) ~shannon -Pat. Says: I've often thought that the VF would do a fine job covering the TH. But I don't think they really care to do covers, except for tribute albums, and to tell the truth, they do such a fine job of coming up with original stuff they don't have to resort to doing covers. And if they did a cover during a show, that'd mean we'd hear one less original song. I don't think I'd like the trade off. Now, if they haven't already come up with a TH tribute, when they finally do get around to it, the VF would be perfect for a song. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SoCal ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >will my femmes never return to socal? Yes, they will. And they will rock. Harder than they have ever rocked before. Yes. And I will be there. And I will be there. And I will be there as I was the last time they were in Los Angeles in September. Last September. September 16 to be exact. At the Palace. In Hollywood. Melrose Larry from the Howard Stern show was outside. The Femmes will return and it will be the second best concert I will have ever been to. Unless they top last September. They will have trouble doing so. They rock. Hard. Very hard. I will be up in front. Staring at all three of them. At the same time. I will be singing along with everything. All of the girls around will be staring at Gordon. With that look that girls get. That look. Yes. Nick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Are We Like Sheep? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm going to have to ask you not to send in any more top 10's at this time. The reason is that Monday is Classifieds day, and that means it's already going to be a 2 parter day. I don't want to have to send out 3. Don't worry. This thread is sure to come up again in about 6 months or so, and you can submit then. For those of you who don't know, the subject line of this is from Handel's Messiah. To that I say 'Baaahh': 1. Little Richard 2. Cramps 3. Levellers 4. Therapy? 5. Pixies 6. Fugazi 7. Squirrel Nut Zippers 8. Black 47 9. Pogues 10. Jesus and Mary Chain In no particular order, and not counting VF of course. Close were: Beck, REM, Chuck Berry, Poster Children, Dada, Catherine Wheel, Certain Distant Suns, Dink, Nirvana, Fleshtones, Rusted Root, X, Brian Setzer, Joe Strummer, Rev. Horton Heat..stop me anytime.. Now, if you haven't had enough, submit your top 5 favorite songs to Edgar, and join the "une banane dans l'oreille" list. -patwary ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Top 10 Typo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dear Pat... I noticed at the end of my post that my e-mail address read "r E barbato@..." It is actually "r C barbato@..." just making sure in case someone would be kind enough to e-mail me! ;) thanks. Ryan "Without friends, we only have our butts!" -Pat. Says: Sorry, Ryan. Typo. Here's your submission again in its entirety, with the correct addy: ---------------------------------------------- Hi everyone... besides the femmes who are definitely on top of my favorite band list...here is my top 10: 1. They Might Be Giants 2. The Cure 3. Depeche Mode 4. Oingo Boingo 5. Gene (the newest arrival) 6. The London Suede (aka Suede) 7. The B-52's 8. Smoking Popes 9. Cranes 10. The Tear Garden Ryan "Without friends, we only have our butts!" - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ok. I feel left out so here's my Top Ten excluding Femmes cuz we all know that they're my # One. (these ain't in no sart of canfarmity either) 1.Counting Crows 2.Goldfinger 3.Sublime 4.Jewel 5.Ben Folds Five 6.Tool 7.Smashing Pumpkins 8.Tori Amos 9.The Offspring 10.Pink Floyd ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Heres my top ten in no particular order: 1.Nirvana 2.311 3.Blink 182 4.Weezer 5.Sugar Ray 6.Green Day 7.Reel Big Fish 8.Bush 9.Nofx 10.Prodigy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I like never write in here, so I thought I'd bless you all with my top 10 fav. bands (not mentioning the Femmes).. and of course, they're not in order. ~ Jessica ~ Third Eye Blind FAT Sugar Ray MxPx Sublime Everclear The Verve Pipe The Wallflowers Blink 182 The Pansy Division ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here's my top 10 if you care : 1. Tori Amos 2. TOOL 3. Nirvana 4. Violent Femmes 5. Bob Dylan 6. Silverchair 7. The Gits 8. the Doors 9. Foo Fighters 10. Radiohead This is in no particular order, except for Tori. She'll always be number one. josh ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm biting the bullet and answering this. (in no particular order) -Cowboy Mouth -Five-Eight -Self -Fluid Ounces -Tom Waits -Harry Connick, Jr -They Might Be Giants -Velvet Underground -James Booker (okay, so he's not a band, so what?) -Jimmy Buffet -Mazzy Star would have to be #11. That's it. john #3 chicago, il ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ heres some of my favorite bands plus the femmes, im adding mine because its fun to see all the different bands that other people like, and its cool when people like what you like...... sublime less than jake ani difranco rusted root g love dave matthews band van morrison a tribe called quest bob marley poi dog pondering and lucas i think thats more than ten. opps. well you cant limit music. -shawn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ okay i have succumbed to your pressure-- i'll be annoying too and type my top ten bands! in no particular order 1. violent femmes 2. citizen king 3. dan bern 4. ben lee 5. fretblanket 6. the coctails 7. victor delorenzo 8. the hunger 9. local h 10. nirvana i hope i got enough assortment for the lot of you... james "i really really like her cuz she's ugly-- just like me..." -smudge /----------------------------------------- * IF YOU'RE UP TO IT... go * * http://www.cris.com/~schrader/crappy/ * * * * * * * * -----------------------------------------/ FIND ME ON AOLIM AS james70007 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I just skimed throught the mail so I don't know what he was talking about but I saw the list of bands and decided to send my list of favorite bands(not including the obvious VIOLENT FEMMES) Bush The Presidents of the United States of America Collective Soul Greenday Mighty Mighty Bosstones Everclear Blink 182 Dave Mathews Band Led Zepplin Sublime Greatful Dead Rolling Stones Lynyrd Skynyrd (I am not sure how to spell it) Pat Says: That's right. Santo and Jonny Rusted Root Jimmi Hendrix Metallica and that is all I can think of right now bye, Sir ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OK...here they are in no particular order...feel free to think my taste in music sux...everyone else seems to. (not including the femmes) 1. Matthew Sweet 2. Pixies 3. Doors 4. Breeders 5. REM (pre-monster) 6. Jane's Addiction 7. Sugarcubes 8. TMBG 9. the Commitments (hey, even if they arent a real band they still rock!) 10. the Smiths plus a heck of a lot of others... Juliana "Hey...been trying to meet you. must be a devil between us, or whores in my head...whores at the door...whore in my bed. but Hey! where have you been. if you go i will surely die. we're chained. 'UH!' said the man to the lady. 'UH!' said the lady to the man she adores. and the whores like a choir go 'UH!' all night. mary arent you tired of this? 'UH!' is the sound that the mother makes when the baby breaks." -"Hey!" The Pixies - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My top ten bands: 1) The Offspring 2) Sublime 3) Metallica 4) Violent Femmes 5) The Rolling Stones 6) Korn 7) Green Day 8) Jimi Hendrix 9) Soundgarden 10) Weezer tied with Sugar Ray - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here are My top ten ( After #6 they go out of order and change a lot) 1. NiRvAnA 2. MxPx 3. Aphex Twin 4. Violent Femmes 5. =weezer= 6. Weird Al 7. Information Society 8. Primus 9. Prodigy 10. Atari Teenage Riot The top 4 will probably never change, & the rest will probably just change order. P.S. If anybody knows information concerning Aphex Twin, Nirvana, or MxPx mailing lists e-mail me ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Finally! I've missed the top tens and I guess I neglected to read the entire issue the other day when it was suggested that we start it back up. It was great to see that someone else who love the femmes also was into Limp Bizkit and the Deftones(I have a piece of Chino's towel from the Clinton show with Limp Bizkit). I love them,(for whoever's information: starting in June Limp Bizkit, Deftones, Korn and Helmet are all going on tour together.) anyway, that's my piece, here's my top ten, you can omit them if you want:(no particular order, excluding femmes) 1. Barenaked ladies 2. Limp Bizkit 3. Deftones 4. Dave Matthews 5. Beatles 6. Zeplin 7. Radiohead 8. Sheryl Crow 9. Less than Jake 10. the Verve that's it, oh and if the Brandeis show becomes definite, I'll definitely be there, if anyone else is planning to go, I have friends that go there and might let you crash there, or at least find you a place to crash. Later Liz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Well, this is my first time to write in, but Matt inspired me to send in my 10 favorite bands: 1. Blue Collar Astronauts, 2.U2, 3.Dinosaur Jr 4.Pixies, 5.Afghan Whigs 6. Talking Heads 7.Radiohead 8.Ramones 9.Led Zeppelin 10.Counting Crows Also, I'm planning on trying to go the the Music Midtown thing in Atlanta. I went last year to see Dinosaur Jr (now rumor has it they've broken up)...hmm I also saw the Ramones at what was supposedly their last club performance ever....guess I'm kind of a jinx?? Anyway, if anyone is going to the Atlanta show May 3 (is that right?) let me know and maybe we can meet up. -Steven -Pat. Says: Could be worse. I saw Andre Segovia, Rudolf Nureyev, and Isaac Asimov, and soon after they DIED. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Top 10 Again ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Here they are, in no particular order: 1) They Might Be Giants 2) The Refreshments 3) Big Bad Voodoo Daddy 4) Cherry Poppin' Daddies 5) Rush 6) Buddy Holly (yes, he's really old--and dead--but that doesn't make his music any less magical for me) 7) Mighty Mighty Bosstones 8) Smashmouth 9) Cake 10) Minstrels of Mayhem Wow. This was harder than I thought! -Tori . . . "If space is a vacuum, who changes the bag?" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~