02-06-98

AMERICAN MUSIC: THE VIOLENT FEMMES MAILING LIST currently run by Pat. Wary ************************************************************************ TOUR DATES: (NEW DATES MARKED WITH A **) Feb. 7-Egan Civic & Convention Center,Anchorage,Alaska (O,P) Feb. 8-same as above (O,P) Feb. 27-First Avenue, Minneapolis, MN (T,O) THIS IS A 21 AND OVER SHOW ONLY Feb. 28-8 p.m. Duluth Entertainment Convention Center, Duluth, MN (O) Mar. 1-Wayne State College, Wayne, NE (O) Mar. 3-Marzz, Raleigh, NC (O) TENTATIVE Mar. 4-Bohagers, Baltimore, MD, $20 (O) Mar. 5-Washington and Lee University, Lexington, VA (O) TENTATIVE Mar. 6-Nightclub 9:30, Washington, DC, $20 (O) Mar. 27 or 28-N. Michigan U., Marquette, MI (O) TENTATIVE NOTA BENE: 'O' stands for the Official homepage 'P' stands for Pollstar 'T' stands for Ticketmaster 'I' stands for Insider Info All other references are subscribers To book a show, contact Monterey Peninsula Artists. Serious inquiries only. ************************************************************************ The Quote Of The Day: Got to get it through your head that life is a scream aaagggghhhh -From Life is a Scream PLEASE send your VF quotes to ************************************************************************ WHO/WHERE Going to a VF concert? Want to know if anyone else on the list also going? Check here first! 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Once it's up and running, you can then write in to find out who lives near you, or who lives in a town you'll be visiting. ************************************************************************ In Today's Issue: Wayne State Info Bohager Info Needed Age Limit at Bohagers? Seattle Experiences The Seattle Show RE: Dumb DMFD RE: Dumb DMFD RE: Dumb DMFD RE: Dumb DMFD RE: Dumb DMFD RE: Johnny Tabs...Dumb DMFD I Wasn't Screaming Sounds Better Live Homework Help Cover the VF ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Wayne State Info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ um.. i called the wayne st. student activities board and asked about the show last nite. unfortunately the rude man on the other end informed me that the show was strictly for students and staff with i.d. shane - -Pat. Says: Well, at least YOU got an answer. I wrote and they never even bothered to write back. I don't think I like that school. Selfish Bastards. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bohager Info Needed ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hi... i have a question. DO u know if the bohager show on march 4th in baltimore is 21 and over? please write back... -abram - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Age Limit at Bohagers? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just to let you know that I'm hopefully going to the VF show at Bohagers in Baltimore too..hopefully I'll get my friends to come. Does anybody know how to get tickets -- oh and is the age limit a big problem? I'm only 15 - but once somebody who worked there told one of my friends that if you looked like you could be 16, then you would be alright... I hope so..... -Joanna -Pat. Says: Dunno. Can anyone help these two people? For that matter, I'd appreciate age info about all these club shows. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Seattle Experiences ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi there! OK, so I went to the show in Seattle. Aside from having a shitty seat, the show was freaking amazing. This was my fourth Femmes show, not quite my favorite, but pretty damn close. Oh, there was one thing that made this show stand out..... I MET GORDON AND BRIAN! I did the ultra groupy thing and hung out by the bus for about 45 minutes after the show and they came out. I am ashamed to admit that I am one of the retards who gets star struck. I couldn't think of one clever thing to say. All I could do was shakily ask for autographs with tears in my eyes. They were very nice and compliant. They were actually laughing at me for being so nervous. The only thing that I could say to them was "Thank you" over and over and over again. I'm such a dork. Oh well, they didn't seem to mind. They were totally friendly. So now I have a framed ticket stub with two beautiful autographs hanging on my wall. I can finally die happy! :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Seattle Show ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hello......though i've been on the list since early january.....i have yet to take the time to write anything in, for one reason or another.... but.......i did go to the seattle show, and i now feel compelled to write something......so here i go....... the show itself was amazing........they played everything that i had hoped they would (with the exception of 'look like that' and 'i saw you in the crowd).........the horn section was really impressive......... the only downside was a lot of the audience....... i understand that most of the crowd just gets really crazy and excited when they hear the femmes play, cause there is so much energy......... ......but moshing? that i just don't get....... at the start of the show i was really close to the stage and was really pumped cause i could see everything so great.......then the crowd started moshing, something that i personally hate.......so, i was forced out of close range and had to stand towards the back...... this didn't stop me from dancing my toukas off and having a great time though........ i saw a lot of people getting very pissed off at the moshing and a lot of testosterone driven guys gleeming at the fact that they were "fucking shit up" (a direct quote from one of the many sweat ridden, shirtless wonders that passed me by on there way to "the pit") i know that not all moshers and crowd surfers are like this, but a lot are, and it really bugs me....... oh well....... after the show i met brian ritchie and gordan gano.......they were very nice and signed my ticket stub.......mr. gano has a very cool hat..... he might want to invest in a razor, but it's o.k......after all, he's gordan gano for god's sake...... adios, matt p.s.......if you heard somebody yell "he said dance, not mosh" really loudly after dance m.f. dance, then that was me....... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Dumb DMFD ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The song Dance Motherfucker Dance was written by a guy named Voot Warnings. In fact three guys share the royalties on that tune. Voot Warnings, Glenn Rehse, John Frankovich. John and Glenn were the prime members of Plasticland a band that Brian Ritchie was in before the femmes days. Brian is on one single from that band. I think it is called flower scene/color appreciation. If you find this single buy it. It is a good record and very rare. I have seen them going for forty dollars and more. The first album that Voot ever put out, Platinum, has his version DMFD on it. Voot has made some good money off the royalties to that song. Especially since it appeared on the Woodstock record and the ADD IT UP CD. Check it out at my site http://www.charmrec.com I have got an MP3 of another voot tune on that site. check out my sounds page. And you can get the Platinum album there as well as the solo work of John Frankovich. These people had an influence on the way the femmes sound came about so it may be worth checking out. If you want the Voot CD , I can offer the it for $9.00 to members of this list. That is $3.00 off . Just say you saw it here in your E-mail message. see you soon Dale ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Dumb DMFD ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i'm going to piss my pants if i see anymore comments on DMFD....great i just commented on it...oh i wet myself...poor me.... Ja~Ne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Dumb DMFD ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In a message dated 98-02-04 10:06:10 EST, you write: << I also don't really care for 'Black Girls' on CD >> poor boy!!! Sun~ra will not be pleased!!! kyle ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Dumb DMFD ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Shocking! How can you all dislike Dance Motherfucker Dance, or Black Girls, for that matter? Black Girls is my favorite VF song, because it's so great to dance to, and Dance Motherfucker Dance is great for dancing, too. Or moshing with the walls, as the case often is in my house. ;-) I have heard both live, and they are even better, even if you're apparently stuck in the middle of the boring part of the crowd where everybody kinda sways and looks at you funny if you actually try to dance! Well, anyway, I'm off to school. Claire ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Dumb DMFD ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thank you all for your input. I now have a new respect for the song, but I still think it sucks. I guess I just have to see the Femmes live. Nick Janssen :)_~ ps. Ryan your right Without friends, we do only have our butts! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RE: Johnny Tabs...Dumb DMFD ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Do you know where I can get the tabs to the last song on "Add it up" I >think it is called "Johnny"? i think the reason there aren't any guitar tabs it that its JUST chords (i think they were D and Em, I'd have to check). The somewhat complicated part where we would need tabs would be the bass lines, which I have no idea how to play. Can Any bassists on the list maybe help???? >In regards to "Dance MF Dance", it is probably gotta one of the most >horrible songs I've ever heard, both on album and LIVE! You see, DMFD isn't supposed to be a deep maning full song to the effect of "see my ships" or anything. Its a drunken, party, go-crazy song and I think its a FUN song. After doing serious stuff for a long time, I'm sure most poeple have at one time or another had an urge to just scream like a drunken hobo about nothing. I agree with it. The song's got its merit. james schrader "take a photo of myself as a souvenier cuz by the end of the day i'll be dead..." (ben lee- end of the world) /----------------------------------------- * IF YOU'RE UP TO IT... go * * http://www.cris.com/~schrader/crappy/ * * * * * * * * -----------------------------------------/ FIND ME ON AOLIM AS james70007 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I Wasn't Screaming ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I decided to write today in response to that little comment "the boys are always great to chat with (especially when the teenage girls stop screaming)." Has anyone stopped to think for a second that there are quite a few teenage subscribers to this mailing list? I am 17 and was offended by that comment and would appreciate it very much if no further generalizations like that are made. My friends and I have met, hung out with, and conversed with the band. We were not screaming our heads off or acting like idiots. I don't mean to sound rude, but I'm just trying to stand up for their teenage fans. Danica -Pat. Says: I am sure no offense was meant. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sounds Better Live ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Well kids as long as we are on the subject of good songs that sound even better live... let me just say that Country Death Song is also incredible live... agree? disagree? Carrie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Homework Help ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am doing a feature for my composition class. (high school) I want to do a some type review on the femmes. So, if there is anyone who would like to be interviewed please e-mail me. This report will go no further than the classroom. If you would like I can use a fake name or whatever fits you. All I need is for you to answer some simple questions like, when did you first hear the femmes, why you like them, bla bla bla... (You can tell I just love school so much!) Please e-mail me if you are interested. Thanks so much. Stephanie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cover the VF ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last night (Feb. 3, 1998) I saw the Indigo Girls at the Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas. (The same place I saw the Femmes a week before.) During the encore, they played a few songs with opening band (Danielle Howle and the Tantrums), including "Closer to Fine" and the Femmes' "Blister in the Sun"! Their rendition of it was pretty good and the crowd loved it! Is anyone compiling a list of bands that have played Femmes songs? If so, maybe you can mail it to me and I'll add it somewhere on the Unofficial Website -- http://vf.scopemag.com/ --James # James Welborn (JW1560) # Webmaster, Vegas Deluxe <http://www.vegasdeluxe.com/> # Nevada's Largest Website -Pat. Says: I've been meaning to tell you folks this for a long time.. go to http://www.onefoot.com to see one of the coolest sites on the web. These guys cover some VF songs. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~