THE ROCK!!!!! VIOLENT FEMMES MAILING LIST
currently run by Pat. Wary

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TOUR DATES: (NEW DATES MARKED WITH A **)

September 1-Mill City Music Fest, Wharehouse District, (P,O)
Minneapolis, MN
September 12-Greening of Mackay, Montreal, QUE (P)
September 13-Shoreline Amphitheater, Mountainview, CA (O)
September 14-Doheny State Beach, Dana Point, CA
September 16-The Palace, Hollywood, CA (T,P)
September 17-The Palace, Hollywood, CA (P)
September 18-Canes, San Diego, CA (T,O)
September 19-The Glass House, Pomona, CA (T)
September 21-The Catalyst, Santa Cruz, CA (O)
September 22-Luther Burbank Center, Santa Rosa, CA (O)
September 23-The Fillmore, San Francisco, CA (O)
September 24-The Fillmore, San Francisco, CA (O) TENTATIVE
September 26-Carolina Music Fest, The World Mardi Gras,
Charlotte, NC (O,P)
for more info call 704-333-2263
September 27-Smokey Mountain Jamboree,Knoxville,TN
October 10-East Stroudsburg University, East Stroudsburg, PA (O)

NOTA BENE: ‘O’ stands for the Official homepage
‘P’ stands for Pollstar
‘T’ stands for Ticketmaster
All other references are subscribers

ALSO: THE INSECT AND WESTERN PARTY

September 4- The Back Room, Flint, MI
September 5-Artspace, Windsor, Ontario
September 6-Zoot’s, Detroit, MI
September 8-JR’S Warehouse, Traverse City, MI
September 10-Lunar Cabaret, Chicago, IL

VICTOR SHOWS

August 29-The Globe, Milwaukee, WI
August 29-9:30 pm, Maritime Days, Milwaukee, WI

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The Quote Of The Day:

I always felt that I was different.
I always thought that that was good.
-from More Money Tonight

send your quotes to
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WHO/WHERE
Mountainview, CA
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Santa Cruz, CA
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San Francisco (Sept. 23)
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Charlotte, NC
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Knoxville, TN
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East Stroudsburg, PA
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In Today’s Issue:
Various Stuff from Me
Victor VS. Guy, and Stuff
Victor VS. Guy
Victor VS. Guy
Victor VS. Guy
Various Responses
Various Responses
Boots Wanted
VF Piano Music Wanted
Underground Posters Wanted
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REMEMBER TO VOTE!!!!SEND IN YOUR VOTE BY AUGUST 30 TO
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1. OK, folks, it’s August 29, only one more day to vote for your favorite
name for this letter. The results will be in Monday’s issue.
2. If you unsubscribe, please ask nicely.
3. Some of you for some reason may not have received the August 27 issue.
It seemed to have gone out of here OK, but something might have
happened to it en route. If you did not get the August 27 issue, email
me, and I’ll resend it to you. For future reference, I send out this
issue every Mon-Wed-Fri, usually before 9 AM my time (US eastern time)
unless an unexpected problem turns up. If I know I won’t be around
on one of those days, I’ll let you all know ahead of time.
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Everything concerning this list, except for special polls run by
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5. Country abbreviations: In honor of our non-American subscribers, here
is the corrected info on the abbreviations:

Abbreviation Country Number of Subscribers
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.ca Canada 23
.uk United Kingdom 10
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.se Sweden 5
.de Germany 5
.pt Portugal 5
.no Norway 4
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.it Italy 1
.yu Yugoslavia 1
.jo Jordan 1
.ch Switzerland 1
(confederatio Helveticae)

*Thank you and
for the corrections.*
6. About the East Stroudsburg show, I’ve sent email to people all over
ESU, and finally received this reply:

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I’ll keep you all posted on any developements here.
7. Greening of Mackay-Does anyone have any more info on this show?

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Wow. When I first heard Femmes, Victor was playing. Yes, with brushes..
looked like basting brushed. When I found out that Victor left and that
Guy was in now, I was totally not for it. I don’t like Guy. In reference
to the soundtrack of Grosse Point Blank. Listen closely to Blister in the
Sun. Now, listen to it on the self-titled. Whoever said that the 2 songs
were exactly the same is crazy. Gorno sings it differently. You can hear
the changes with the drums. Just go and listen and you’ll come back and
say “Wow, Beyz was right”. Glad to see a quote of mine (from a letter)was
used. Why was a letter re-posted in response to it though? I’ve seen the
same message twice. Oh, and I say Victor is cuter than Dry (by a big long
shot). I’m kind of interested to know what other kinds of music Femmes
fans listen to. I’ll start. Less Than Jake, The Queers, Counting Crows,
Jewel, No Doubt, Sublime, Tory Voodoo, Rancid, Dead Milkmen, Mighty Mighty
Bosstones, Bauhaus, Mazzy Star, Goldfinger (I get to see them in concert..
yeah), They Might Be Giants, Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, Squirrel Nut
Zippers, Concrete Blond, The Offspring, NOFX, Mephiskaphales, and tons
of others. Talk about versatile tastes. Keep sending me votes on fav and
least fav songs. I want at least 50 so I can do the math quick fast.

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In a message dated 97-08-27 22:38:49 EDT, you write:

<< I asked to be
given realavant reasons why Guy was better than Victor and I get nothing
of the kind. >>

uhh hummm…drummmmm i think i gave you some good reasons drumming
reasons why guy is good…i don’t think well i know he is not better but
you have to look at the way the drums are created and the music is simple
especially rock……you remember the hand solo i told you about….some
hard evidence of guys originality as a drummer….so you did get a good
argument…and did i mention he is nice….just kidding=)
kyle

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In a message dated 8/22/97 4:18:29 PM, you wrote:

<< I have given a ton of reasons why I know Victor was better, please say
there is someone out there with an actual opinion based on SOMETHING
SUBSTANTIAL. >>

Technically Victor is better as a drummer this much is true

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As a matter of fact I have easily talked to Brian and Gordon, but found
it much harder to find guy because he is always on the bus before anyone
else. I had to run up to him before he got on to meet him, then when Brian
and Gordon came out, guy left.

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I hate to cloud the newsletter like this, but there seems to be a lot of
hostility around here.

<< LIVE IN THE NOW MAN! Last time I checked it was Victor who
left the Femmes and the fans not the other way around. Now there’s
something Victor did that made me say Wow!
BTW if it’s just about the Music for ya enjoy it and just don’t buy the
T-shirts and crap! Oh and you might want to get rid of the liner for New
Times ’cause a drummer who shall remain nameless designed it :O !>>

O.K. Victor left and that sucked. Guy is a crappy art designer, and a
crappy drummer. He said to my face that the femmes was the easiest gig
he’s ever had. EASY?!?! That just shows how little effort he puts into
the music, he needs to stop designing shit and start practicing!

AND SOME GIRL SAID GUY IS CUTER? YEAH WHAT A LOVELY GAP IN YOUR TEETH,
AND THE WAY YOU LOOK LIKE YOU’RE DEAD I LOVE IT!! NOTT

PLEASE send all flames to Can we end this argument now?
Everyone vented their spleen enough?-Pat.

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Hi everyone,
Neil Fahey again. Haven’t read the digests for a while so i’ll go through
them and reply to some stuff i think.

>I have a question… What will become of the star at the top of every
>news
I agree that the star should be used no matter what the name of the list,
but in truth the star was introduced at the same time as the ROCK!!!!!
name to correspond with the album cover.
For those of you who dont know, this list used to be called The Violent
Femmes Mailing List of VFML and i don’t think there was any art for the
header. God i miss running this list… AAAAHHHHHH MEMORIES! 🙂

>stage!!!!!! Ruined the damn show for the rest of us “TRUE VF Fans” Man,
Hey that is bullshit man, true fans. Anyone that is devoted to the femmes,
no matter what there age, is a true fan! This list was started by me when
i was 14 and i have been a true fan since i was about 11 or 12. And by
the way, if you can’t handle the concert dont bother going, enjoy the
femmes, ignore everyone else.

>P.S. Is there anyone on this list onther than me from N.Z.?
I’m from Australia, its kinda close!

Well, thats about it really, less to reply to than i expected. Hope i
didn’t start any of those long and boring arguments but i have to put my
two cents in.
Neil

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Check out Neil & Bon’s Magic Dirt Homepage at-
http://connexus.apana.org.au/~goshmer/mdhome.htm

Check out Neil’s Lucksmiths Homepage at-
http://minyos.its.rmit.edu.au/~ripani/lucky/lucky.htm

Or check out Neil’s Homepage at-
http://www.netc.net.au/members/f/nfahey/

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Video for nightmares. I have it on tape from like 88 or 89. I guess
that’s when it came out. Pretty cool though. Also on tape I have: Gone
daddy gone,american music, breaking up, I held her in my arms, plus live
footage from 120 minutes, and interviews.

As I seem to have started something on hating B.I.T.S. I just want to say
two things. Blister 200, I actually think it is cool, and it would be
better for them to play that rather than the same old version. Also as
far as phish goes, well I wont say just how I feel about phish (might
upset too many people) I think it was kinda cool that they covered it,
even though the femmes are and always will be superior to phish.

Tranceaphone: I’m not sure of the dimensions, but it is a floor tom
mounted on a snare type stand. I sort of have one. The metal pole
obviously can be found at any hardware store.

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Hello everyone,

I am quite new to this list and have been reading the digests for a
few weeks. I believe introductions are in order, therefore:)

My name’s Esther, and my boyfriend and I love the VF. I may not be
qualified to call myself a Violent Femmes “FAN”, as I don’t know all
their albums, just one – of which I don’t even know the name (I know,
shame on me). BUT, the few songs I do know, I love. I hope that’s
enough 🙂

Anyhoo, I’m writing because Frank said:
>> Said all that, I noticed most of the comments on this list are made
by Americans, a few by Australians. Aren’t there any Europeans (or
even Belgians) on this list? <<

Not quite Belgian, but Dutch] But I am living in the UK at the moment.
Incidentally, my boyfriend is from Australia and he is the one that
introduced me to the Femmes’ music. That’s all I wanted to say really.
But I do have a question:

Does anyone have any idea whether the Femmes will be touring Europe
any time soon…? My boyfriend… okay, I hate referring to him as “my
boyfriend”, so I’ll call him Ashley from now on – which is his name,
so that makes sense. Anyway, Ashley and I keep looking out for info on
them, but they don’t seem to be coming anywhere near us soon… 🙁

I’d absolutely *lurve* to see them play live, so I’m feeling a bit
jealous of all you folks in the States… 🙂

Thats all for now,
Esther

Pat. says-Goedemorgen, Esther. Glad to hear from new fans eager to learn
more about our favorite band. As soon as a European tour starts
up, I’ll be sure to let you, and everyone else know.

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Hello, i just finished reading the last issue and someone asked if they
could get a hold of a few bootlegs. Well if anyone could help me out as
well, then i would like to have some too. So if you can help me out then
e-mail and we can work out the arrangements. Thanking you (who ever you
are) in advance.

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Hello everyone. I was wondering if anyone out there has music for The
VIOLENt FemMeS for piano. I know there are chords and tab. But we
don’t all play guitar ya’ know 🙂 Some of their songs even have
piano-like instruments in them. I’d love to be able to turn my
synthesizer to xylphone and play the Gone Daddy Gone solo for example.
Anyone have or ever heard of VF for the piano?

-L8R-
Gamera

Pat. says- I usually don’t practice ‘Me-too-ism’, but, um… ME TOO!

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I just started living in a college dorm, and I really need to spruce it
up a bit. I already have some VF posters, but I am looking for some
Velvet Underground posters. If anyone knows a web page that would sell
some or if anyone has a VU poster they would sell me, please write me
back. Thanx

Pat. says- Off topic, but I’m feeling generous today. Please send all
responses to

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