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THE ROCK!!!!! VIOLENT FEMMES MAILING LIST
currently run by James Schrader

The Quote Of The Day:
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“You know I love the lord of hosts;
The father, son, and holy ghost
I was so pleased to learn that he was inside me;
In my time of trouble he will hide me.”
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from BLACK GIRLS on “HALLOWED GROUND”
send your quotes to

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Sorry about not getting this out sooner, I VERY was busy…
–james
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In Today’s Digest:
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Re: ROCK!!!!! for 7-16-96 — Color Me Once lyrics
ROCK!: Who is Dahmer?
Victor solo
Add it Up
VF dreams
Re: No Subject
various Femmes stuff
Femmes covers
Re: ROCK!!!!! for 7-17-96
lollapalooza
ROCK!!!!! for 7-17-96
Video Callage

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From: Bec Hamadock
Subject: Re: ROCK!!!!! for 7-16-96 — Color Me Once lyrics

>> do you have the lyrics to Day After Day and American Music?
>The lyrics to all the CD’s as well as Color Me Once (from the Crow
soundtrack) are available on the Femmes webpage at
http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~mmerry2/femmes.html

the “color me once” lyrics are not real accurate.

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From: Femmes Freak
Subject: ROCK!: Who is Dahmer?

In response to the question ‘Who is Dahmer?’ in the last digest…
Jeffrey Dahmer was (he’s dead, you know =) a Milwaukee serial killer.

Over 13 years he murdered (then dismembered) 17 men and boys (mostly
black men). Milwaukee police officers arrested Dahmer on July 22, 1991,
but had failed to arrest him in May after neighbors reported seeing a
naked and bleeding boy. Officers, who were later suspended, accepted
Dahmer’s explination that the boy was an adult and Dahmer’s homosexual
lover, even though Dahmer was on probation for sexually molesting the
boy’s older brother in 1989. Dahmer pleaded guilty to 15 murder charges
in January of 1992, and entered insanity pleas. He was found guilty by a
jury in February, and was sentenced to 15 consecutive life terms in
prison. A 16th term was added in May after he was found guilty of
aggravated murder in Ohio. He only served a couple of years before he was
killed, in prison, by another prisoner with a broomstick (hence the
lyrics to ‘Dahmer Is Dead’).
That’s probably more than you wanted to know..oh well.
rob=)

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From: Meg Zamula
Subject: Victor solo

— [ From: New User * EMC.Ver #2.3 ] —

I was reading the Washington Post this morning and it featured a review of
“Pancake Day”, the new solo album by Victor De Lorenzo. It is, apparently,
his second. Has anyone heard it? Has anyone heard the first one?

Also, did anyone catch Gordon on that singer/songwriter tour?

Meg
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From: Patrick Marton
Subject: Add it Up

>From: Holly Hall
>Subject: ADD IT UP #2
>
>
>Listen to the Track #2 on the Rock CD – “Tonight”….. Just listening to
>it to the beat the words and the feeling the song emits is just like that
>of ADD IT UP!!! Believe me it’s there!!!! Ive listened to both
>often…. How do you like the “didgeridue” song???? Isnt that instrument
>the coolist thing!!!! I really rocked the crowd when Brian brought it
>out on the stage in Memphis….. Sounds really funky when played alone!!!
>Be good ya’ll….. Tonight I wanna get ?????????……… Tonight I
>wanna get drunk……. Tonight………………………
>

Sorry, those two songs have one thing in common. They are Femmes songs,
thats it. Other than that they are different. “Add it Up” is about the
thoughts of sucide and should one throw it all away (hence, “Just about to
cut it up, she said wait a minute honey gonna Add it up”), whereas “Tonight”
is a dumb song they’ve been playing in concert for years. “Tonight is about
angst, it has no real other theme of the song. Where as in “Add it Up” is
acctually a dark song with meaning, Tonight is a dumb “fun” song that lat=ys
all it’s cards on the table to begin with.

Hope this helps.

-Patrick Marton

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From:
Subject: VF dreams

If there’s room for one more Violent Femmes dream on this list, allow me to
submit one that my friend told me. She gets embarrassed very easily though,
so i’ll tell it for her. Since Gordon is so short, she had this dream that
he would fit in the bathtub with her.
(check the lyrics to I Wanna See You Again)

Hi Emily!
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From:
Subject: Re: No Subject

thanks for letting me be on your list thingee. i LOVE the femmes! maybe
you can answer me this, although it may sound dumb. where can i get ‘rock?’
i didn’t even know it existed until i visited the femmes website, where i
learned it was unreleased in the us, or something. anyhow, is it available
now? if not, how can i get a copy? umm, anything you want to tell me about
the femmes would be cool, so thanks. and stuff. bye.

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From:
Subject: Femmes covers

The other day on WDRE the Refreshments were in the studio. They played some
songs and then decided to play one of their covers. I was surprised to find
that they played “Kiss Off” by the Femmes. It really wasnt that bad. I still
like the original better but the Refreshments actually did it pretty good. If
anyone else heard this, what did you think of it?
~mandi (aka girl from mars)

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From: This is where the evil grows
Subject: various Femmes stuff

In the article titled “Big Noise From Wisconsin” (it’s an old one on Mike M’s
homepage) it lists Gordon as being born in 1963, Brian in 1960, & Victor in
1954. So you should be able to figure out their ages from that. (I haven’t the
faintest how old Guy is). This surprised me a bit as I thought the Femmes were
all the same age & they obviously aren’t. On the marriage thing: this had come
up a few times before on the list. Gordon is supposedly married (he’s got a
wedding ring on in the Rock!!!!! CD photos) but I don’t know anything about his
wife. I’m pretty sure Victor’s married; I don’t know about Guy. Brian was but
he got divorced & I don’t know his love life from then on. I had a dream once
that a kid at my high school was doing a slide presentation on the history of
guys who wear high heels, & he had a picture of the Femmes (all in heels) in
it. They were all standing in front of a brick wall smiling. I don’t know why I
associated them with heels. Guess that’s it. Bye now

eep opp ork ah-ah,
Lyce

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From: Sandra Helen Joynt
Subject: Re: ROCK!!!!! for 7-17-96

Thanx everyone for your responses…

>>1. Who is Dahmer?
>Jeffrey Dahmer is a serial killer from Milwaukee, who apparently cut up the
>body parts and ate some of them and did gross things with the others. He
>confessed, and was sentenced, and then was killed in jail by a fellow inmate
>with a broomstick that bashed him upside the head.

Charming! Actually now that you mention it, I remember Dahmer was
mentioned in the movie Copycat…

>>2. What exactly is Blister In The Sun about?? (i have my own theory, but
>i think its about masturbation. Has that tone.

Yes!!! this was my theory! (“big hands I know you’re the one…”) So I’m
not just perverted.. (at least, not the only one) 🙂

>>3. Does anyone know if any of the Femmes are diagnosed with Bipolar
>>Disorder (manic depression)? I’ve been finding out a lot about the
>>disorder lately and it’s just struck me how well their music seems to
>>”fit” a manic depressive personality…
>I have no clue. Post more about it and maybe we can decide together…:

Well I’m no psychaiatrist, but it’s basically a condition of really
extreme mood swings – from manic (extremely energetic, restless,
hyperactive, excited, turned on, etc. can get psychotic & violent) to
depressed (no energy, no feeling, no point, can get suicidal). It can
usually be controlled with drugs.

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“good feeling, won’t you stay with me just a little longer…
‘cos I know the other one just a little too well…”

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From:
Subject: lollapalooza

I am also a new comer to this digest. I have been getting it for about a
month now so I thought it was about time I put my input in. I am a 19
year old Canadian and I was wondering if there were any other Canadians
receiving the digest?

Anyways, I didn’t do this just to tell about myself, I did this to tell
what I know. I was at the Lollapalooza in Toronto (actually it’s Barrie, but
that doesn’t matter) and it was amazing. I don’t know how many of you heard
about EDEN musicfest but I was there also. Actually I was surprised to see how
many Americans were actually there. We met these guys from California there, a
22 hour drive, but the guy told me he came with a friend who’s father is 85%
owner of Texas Instruments so they took a limo and his father filled it with
booze … but that’s another story. Lollapalooza, the Femmes were
indescribable. However, there wasn’t a big crowd for them, I think it was
partly due to the fact that they switched the order of the Ramones and the
Femmes. They put them before the Ramones instead of after. I don’t think this
was a good choice because all the Ramones fans were ready to see the Ramones
and when the Femmes came on the crowd was a little bit angry. The Femmes tried
to be the Ramones to put the crowd at ease, but they just couldn’t do it, the
Femmes are the Femmes and that’s all there is to it. They were so amazing.
I finally heard that Jefferey Dahmer song there. Does anyone know where I can
get that cd, I heard it is only available in Australia, and I’m dying to have
it. Anywho, I am glad it was a small crowd because I could get very close to
the stage. I wanted him to notice me so badly, but he didn’t. I have a
question for all of you out there, are the Violent Femmes gay, or bisexual
even? I am asking this out of curiousity because at this show Brian Ritchie
was playing that weird instrument that he plays and he was playing it like it
was a dick, and then he was playing it up his ass, and I don’t know, it just
didn’t look natural. Well, I think I have used up enough space …

WE GOT THE MOTHER AND THE KIDS, WE GOT THE GUY AND HIS DATE,
WE ALL GET MAD, WE ALL GET LAID

LIZ

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From: (MS JENNIFER A BECKER)
Subject: ROCK!!!!! for 7-17-96

I noticed a tour date of 9-27-96 in Albany ….. if anyone has any
more info, email me or post it. i will be enternally grateful. I love
the femmes and they might be giants. It would be a dream come true to
see them together………. Jen

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From:
Subject: Video Callage

Hello this is Kara, the one who wrote a little while ago about a video based
on Violent femmes preformances. Since then two very nice and kind people
volentered to help. Once again I promise I will mail you back you’re tape
and a free tape of the final video. Please please please, I truly need your
help. I am not even selling copies, I am just charging for price of the tape
and shipping. This is not for money, this is to do some thing for Violent
Femmes fans just like all of you.

This means sooooo much to me.

-Kara
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