AMERICAN MUSIC: THE VIOLENT FEMMES MAILING LIST
currently run by Pat. Wary
TOUR DATES: (NEW DATES MARKED WITH A **)
**Apr. 1- Salem State College, Salem, MA (O) TENTATIVE**
Apr. 2- Brandeis Universtiy, Waltham, MA (O) TENTATIVE
Apr. 4- 8:30 p.m. Timkin Gymnasium, Mt. Union College, Alliance, OH
Apr. 5- 7.30 p.m. Elco Theatre, Elkhart, IN (T,O,P)
Apr. 6- 9 p.m. World Mardi Gras, Indianapolis, IN (T,O,P) 21+ SHOW
Apr. 7- Knight’s Hall, Bellarmine College, Louisville, KY, ~$17.50
**Apr. 16- University of Wisconsin, Stevens Point, WI (O) TENTATIVE**
**Apr. 17- North Michigan University, Marquette, MI (O) TENTATIVE**
Apr. 18- 7:30 p.m. McGown Gym, Winona State University, Winona, MN
Apr. 19- Fargo Civic Auditorium, Fargo, ND (O)
Apr. 21- Madison Theatre, Peoria, IL (O)
Apr. 24- Center CityFest ’98, Charlotte, NC (O)
**Apr. 26- La Salle University, Philadelphia, PA (O)**
**May 2- Salisbury State College, Salisbury, MD (O) TENTATIVE**
May 3- 99X [email protected] Midtown, Atlanta, GA (O)
May 15- Chocolate Fest, Burlington, WI (O)
NOTA BENE: ‘O’ stands for the Official homepage
‘P’ stands for Pollstar
‘T’ stands for Ticketmaster
‘I’ stands for Insider Info
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Serious inquiries only.
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were out of mints
pass the life savers
I’m droppin hints
candy for candy-coated tongue
-From Prove My Love
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In Today’s Issue:
Cincy and Asheville Shows Deleted
Fred Show..RE: RBF
Fred and DC Shows
Pat. in DC
Freak TMBG Magnet
RE: Freak Magnet (Mostly)
Top 10 Again
Cincy and Asheville Shows Deleted
Due to the fact that the Cincinnati and Asheville shows are no longer
listed in the Official Homepage, I have removed them from the tourdates.
I got these of the Mt. Union website for the April 4th concert:
Take 77 South to Canton, then Rt. 62 East to Alliance
Take 7l North to Mansfield, then Rt. 30 East to Canton. Follow 77 North
to Rt. 62 East. Follow to the Alliance Exit
Check http://www.muc.edu for directions from other places.
“The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to their graves
with their song still in them.” -Henry David Thoreau
Fred Show..RE: RBF
I have always said the violent (voilet) Femmes are always getting
better. That’s still true. Being a rock star must be a real hard job.
That’s one of the lessons I learned from the Fredericksburg show.
It was quite incredible to see that show with real VF fans. It makes a
big difference being with real fans.
I am looking forward to the Ashville and Charlotte shows. I will find
it real hard not to compare this last show with other shows. I have
never really worried about being up front before. But, with the Violent
Femmes it seems to make a difference in that there is some
communication. Somehow, Guy knew that I was on the front row…though I
was furtherest from him. So, I bet the next two shows will be at bigger
venues, so that will suck.
If Reel Big Fish want to tease the Femmes let them. RBF sucks anyway
sell-outs who do a song about selling-out which isn’t even that good
anyway, who further don’t know how to put on a good ska show. So don’t
take RBF to damn seriously..they suck. Listen to good ska bands
Deana said really all that needed to be said about the Fredericksburg
show in itself. I just wanted to add my 2 cents.
Fred and DC Shows
Ok, I’m sick of this! I never write because I always say “I’m too
busy! I’m too busy!” Well, fuck studying for the Biochem test! As far
as I’m concerned that’s why God made Perkins! “And on the night of the
6th day, Jehovah realized that after all that creative work he had a
hankerin’ for an omlette, some home fries, and some really bad but
cheap coffee, so he created 24 hour diners like Perkins, Denny’s, and
Eat-N-Park. AMEN!!!!” I have just had possibly the greatest week of
my life! It started Tuesday morning when Deana and I drove to
Fredericksburg for the most awesome VF show I’ve ever seen! Deana
already gave y’all the details (sorry, I’ve now spent over 3 years in
the South, the speech is rubbing off. Next I’ll be a NASCAR fan!
musically, you just can’t beat the shows where the Femmes get a chance
to JAM! like they did with Eugene Chadbourne! Aaahhhh! I was going
nuts it was so wonderful! And Gordon at the beginning saying “I’m not
going to do any guitar solos. No wait. You’ve just seen two really
great guitarists, and maybe some of you are trying to play the guitar
and you see them and think ‘I can’t do that!’ So, maybe I WILL play some
guitar so you will see me and think ‘Yeah! I CAN do that!!!!'” And
when Gordon started singing the 2nd verse too early in “Held her in my
arms” and I looked at him like “Gordon, what the fuck?!!!” and he just
laughed and shrugged, Ooops! You didn’t see that folks! Really, I
would have been thrilled to death if the night had ended after “Add it
up”, but nooooooo. We talked to Guy and yes, he gave me a backstage
pass since I will hopefully be seeing them a lot in the next few months.
On the drive home, Deana kept asking me “Has it sunk in yet?!” No, it
didn’t sink in until I went to the DC show. I had almost sold my DC
ticket to Travis, because he wanted it so badly, but after getting the
pass, I told Travis he could have my spleen, but not the ticket! He
understood, and happily got one from Gordon’s brother! So, I drove up
to DC on Friday night and first met Pat (and hubby Scott!) while waiting
in line! Believe me everyone, she’s just as great as you all suspect!
After the opening act was over, I decided to make use of my pass. I was
hanging out backstage when Guy came up and said “Hi Amber!” I was
surprised he remembered, I’d given him the mneumonic device of “Think of
Amber Bock beer” on Tuesday–it must’ve worked! 🙂 We talked for a
while, and then he said Pat was upstairs with the rest of the band if I
wanted to go up, so I did. Really folks, it’s hard to stay calm when
you’re in a room with all these great people. There were several times
I had to turn my face to the wall and break out in the goofiest grin
because I couldn’t quite believe where I was. I asked Gordon if I could
have an apple from their complimentary fruit basket and he assured me
that was ok and “Thanks for asking!” To me, that’s just plain funny. I
don’t know. Anyway, the show was incredible. It’s great being able to
move and breathe backstage, but I think I’ll try to get back up front in
the crowd for the next few shows if they’re small venues–it’s nice
being able to make eye contact and watch Gordon’s expressions as he
sings. Guy and I talked for a while after the show; I also got to meet
Travis, Bek, and MaryLee. Then I left and Ray walked me back to my
car parked a few blocks down in the crack maniac section of town!
Everyone I met was so unbelievably nice like that! What a night! I
love you all!!! What I didn’t love was the 6 hour drive back to
college. I just prayed (“Please God, don’t let me wreck and die.
There’s so many more Femmes shows to see!), set my car, Blue, on
automatic pilot, and the next thing I knew it was 8:30 am and I was back
at school. My little dorm bed never looked so swell! I hid my pass
back under the carpeting (and you think Beky’s paranoid!!!), took a
shower and crashed! for 24 hours! Hmmm…should I admit to that? 🙂 Oh
well, what I’m trying to say is I had a swell time! Did I mention I’m
the queen of understatements ! :):):):)***amber
Pat. in DC
Well, we made it to DC. Quite a place, eh? I’d rather be locked in a
small room full of big stinky wet dogs who have a collective and serious
case of flatulence than visit that depressing city again. Sorry. I’m
just not a city person as a whole, but this place was sad and scary.
As for the show, what can I say? Has there ever in the history of the
world been a bad, or even mediocre, Violent Femmes performance? OF
COURSE NOT. I did not care for Mary Prankster, the opening performer.
Don’t get me wrong, folks; she was clearly very popular, and is no
doubt talented and witty. I just wasn’t in the mood for an hour or so
of John Valbyisms. The shock appeal wore off rather quickly. But the
guys were in great form as always, despite a couple of technical
problems which must have sent Willie’s blood pressure through the roof.
I won’t give the entire set list; if anyone wants it, write me and I’ll
email you personally. I counted 28 songs. I was very happy to hear
Special, I Held Her in My Arms, and Faith. It’s been awhile. Didgeridoo
Blues was played as an encore rather than in the beginning. And three
new songs-Bad, Rejoice, and Freak Magnet were played somewhere in the
middle of the set. First time I’d heard Freak Magnet, and loved it of
course. I can almost sing along with Bad. Can’t wait till May.
It was great meeting all of you who managed to find me. Thanks for
looking for me. Now I can visualize a few more faces. Sorry I missed
the rest of you. Patrick, I’ve emailed everyone else I met but you. I
can’t remember your email aarrgh. So it was great meeting you and hope
we’ll be able to do it again. I’m glad you managed to get in, but sorry
to hear there were a few minor problems. Hope I was a pleasant surprise,
or at the least not a disappointment. Write in more often and I’ll
remember your addy. Keep Mike in line.
<< It sucked i was at the Reel Big Fish show on Wendesday night. Reel
Big fish opened up playing a mock song of the Violent Femmes they were
making fun of the Femmes. Screw Reel Big Fish>>
are you positive that they were making fun of them? Reel Big Fish gets
kicks outta making fun of themselves and stuff they like, you know.
it’s called verbal irony, like saying, “hey i suck,” when you really
mean, “hey i’m cool.” i could be wrong, though, i mean if RBF just came
out there and mocked them and then said, “i’m glad we’re making fun of
the violent femmes because i hate them,” or something, well, that’s
just another story. the femmes and RBF are both really cool bands, in
my not-so-humble opinion, and even if they don’t like each other or
whatever, who cares?
bye bye — karin
Freak TMBG Magnet
Hello, hi everyone. First, while I’m rarely much of an apologist for
Reel Big Fish, they really mean no discredit to the Violent Femmes.
They have a song that begins with a very familiar sounding “Do you
like…alternative music?” It’s not a femmes putdown.
Second, I remember reading once upon an eon ago an interview with They
Might Be Giants in which they were asked about the interesting nature of
their fans. John (or maybe it was John) replied “Oh yeah, we’re freak
magnets.” Logical conjecture time: VF have played many a concert with
TMBG…is the title of their new cd a reference to the Giants quote???
thank you. I’ll go back to thinking about school related crapola now.
RE: Freak Magnet (Mostly)
ok, well since i’d rather write in to AM than get out of my pajamas and
go get ready for saturday morning crap, i’m writing in. are you just
oh so excited? i’m sure. so anyways i was kind of wondering, where
exactly did the femmes get the idea for the album to be called FREAK
MAGNET? just kind of curious. I mean it’s like the femmes have all
these albums with like really cool names (shut up i like the word like,
ok?) and then they bust out with one called FREAK MAGNET… i don’t
really get it. I’m not saying it’s like a shitty album name or
anything, it just sounds more like something the Bloodhound Gang would
come up with. The Bloodhound Gang being a band i like, but would NOT
want to hear cover a femmes song excpet maybe dance mother fucker dance,
and not even that really. i babble a lot. Back to the subject though…
why would you wreck a perfectly good like roll of great album names with
a kinda not fitting one? WELCOME BACK WES!!! sorry, random outburst
there. OK, so i might be going to germany for a whole month this summer
because im good at german (shut up, i am, i’m smart) and i was thinking
“wouldn’t it be cool if the femmes would be in germany while i was
there?” but they won’t be so that’s wishful thinking and me talking
too much and you guys wanting to hit me with a baseball bat because i
talk way too much when i do talk. ok, well im done now and now i have
fifteen minutes to shower, do my hair, makeup, get dressed, eat
breakfast and get out of the house. oops. i really shouldn’t do
-Pat. Says: Apparently Freak Magnet is a term one of them heard and it
sort of stuck in his memory. You don’t think it fits? Take
a look around at some of the people next to you at your next
concert. Watch some of the stuff they throw onstage. How
many times have you seen someone ask Brian if it’d be OK to
try out the didg or get a taste of that cigar? Of course I
don’t mean anyone on THIS list; every one knows WE’RE all
clean cut outstanding fine specimens of humanity.
Personally, I think ROCK is the weakest title they’ve ever
given an album. Pity. It also happens to be one of my
favorites. But, hey, it’s what’s INSIDE that counts, right?
aaron messed up.
the culture club wrote “do you really want to hurt me”
just a correction.
Here’s something I think you’ll all enjoy. Down here in Pheonix Arizona
we haven’t got the Femmes to play for us since christmas 1995(21+ show,
damn those drinking laws. and why would i drink at a femmes show? i’d be
too busy screaming my head off, anyway) and we were all pretty upset
about getting passed up on their west coast tour(yes, i polled all 5
million+ people, we all feel kind of ditched). Oh yes, now I remember my
original intent….slips away some times……Saturday night five us
went to see Nakid(no biggie for me, i hate the radio as much as i hate
the tv/president/ect.) and The Refreshments. The refreshments are local
to pheonix so it was pretty neat, and this was a free show put on for
arizona days(or some equally meaningless psudo-holiday). Well, it was
a pretty good show, but it got infinitely better. Halfway through their
second song of their first encore, the break into none other than the
immortal “Kiss Off”. While we had been rather nonchalant for most of
this event(it was getting late and the 50 year old guy on his 4th joint
for the night was starting to bug me) when we heard the first 2 words
of the first very my girlfriend and i broke into a wild frenzy. I’d say
that only 50-60 people even knew the words so in reality we were the
only people screaming something meaingful. After this 5 minutes of
pleasure, we politely(we were still screaming and didn’t quite notice)
screamed out how much better this was then sex to anyone who was looking
our way(which, incidentally, covered pretty much anyone near the beer
tents). This is getting rather longer than i had hoped, but i’ve said my
peace and probably(definitely) bored you into a state of unparalleled
Top 10 Again
o.k…..i’ve got an idea……it might not be that cool….but what the
since we’re all on the violent femmes mailing list, that must mean that
we share some of the same interests in music….so, just for kicks, i
propose that everybody posts a top ten bands list (besides the femmes),
just so everybody can see what everybody else is into and maybe what
they should get into……………so what if this isn’t the greatest
idea ever…..at least i’m trying…
here, i’ll start
(in no particular order)
1. modest mouse (isaac!!!!)
2. built to spill
4. weezer =w=
5. sleater-kinney (i live pretty close to the namesake)
6. the halo benders |
7. dub narcotic sound system | oh calvin….
8. beat happening |
9. de la soul
10. the rentals it’s all about the moog….
(satan’s pilgrims, cub, gaze, a tribe called quest,dj shadow,
man…or astroman?, beck, combustible edison, royal crown revue,
satisfact and radiohead too)
i’m sure you have better things to do, but please….just humor me…
~pretend there’s a really cool quote here~
-Pat. Says: This thread crops up every few months or so. There’s no
harm in it, so have at. Interesting selections Matt.